Universal basic income is a stopgap at best. A bandaid to keep capitalism running just a little bit longer before it all collapses in on itself. More robust social programs and government backed competition for basic needs like housing, food, and internet are a minimum if we want to make any kind of progress.

Some of them should have bankrupted before that happened.

I spent 25 years on this planet without the need for an actual Ai, I’ve used Siri when she was dumb to make quick phone calls or to turn lights off but other than that I really don’t need to know the last digit to Pi.

if we want to make any kind of progress.

The people who own this country DON'T want progress.

AGI will destroy us before replacing us

There was a case in Canada where the judge ruled in favour of the plaintiff, where a chatbot had offered information that differed from Air Canada's written policy. The judge made them honor the guidance generated by the chatbot:

How can I mislead you? Air Canada found liable for chatbot's bad advice on bereavement rates | CBC News

Air Canada has been ordered to pay compensation to a grieving grandchild who claimed they were misled into purchasing full-price flight tickets by an ill-informed chatbot.

CBC (www.cbc.ca)

I hate to break it to you, but....

Theyll use it as an excuse to say they cant find workers now because of ai and need to oursouce to a cheaper country

That can be accomplished with basic if-else decision tree. You don't need the massive resource sink that is AI

The people own it, at least for now. They just have to start showing up. The capital class certainly want us to think it's a lost cause, because there's still enough to stop them before it's too late.

My company gets a lot of incoming chats from customers (and potential customers)

The challenge of this side of the business is 98% of the questions asked over chat are already answered on the very website that person started the chat from. Like it's all written right there!

So real human chat agents are reduced to copy paste monkeys in most interactions.

But here's the rub. The people asking the questions fit into one of two groups: not smart or patient enough to read (unfortunate waste of our resources) or they are checking whether our business has real humans and is responsive before they buy.

It's that latter group for whom we must keep red blooded, educated and service minded humans on the job to respond, and this is where small companies can really kick ass next to behemoths like google who bring in over $1m per employee but still can't seem to afford a phone line to support your account with them.

It's just a tool, like a search engine or a guillotine

Goood thing there is no AGI

That’s good because they can’t do math anyway

How about governments?

I hope they all go under. I've no sympathy for them and I wish nothing but the worst for them.

You don't need "ai" to do any of that. That is something we've been able to do for a long time. Whether or not call centers or help desks implemented a digital assistant is a different story.

Whenever I call in to a service because it's not working, when I get stuck talking to a computer, I'm fucking furious. Every single AI implementation I've worked with has been absolute trash. I spam click zero and yell "operator" when it says it didn't hear me or asks for my problem, and I've 100% of the time made it through to a person. People also suck, but they at least understand what I'm saying and aren't as patronizing.

I disagree. the current IVR systems in place that only take a few valid voice prompts are insufficient for more advanced queries. I think transferring it to more of an AI style setup like how the chat bots were, but having it handle transferring to the proper area instead of doing everything is a much needed improvement.

I don't disagree with the statement that companies haven't implemented the right tech for their support though

Well yeah, when ai started to give people info so wrong it cost the companies money this was going to happen.