One Rich Asshole Called Lary Ellison

Java is IMHO one of the most underrated platforms outside of enterprise environments.

Most people also forget, that Java is not only a language, but also a platform, an ecosystem and active research is applied to many parts of Java.

Concerning Oracle: OpenJDK is actively supported by very different but big and capable companies (IBM, Amazon, Eclipse Foundation...). The quality of the language, libraries and documentation needs people which are payed to work on this, full time.

Bring to this the free IDEs one can get for Java - Eclipse and Netbeans are a little bit old school, but offer everything to build/debug and develop complex software.

Java is not my favorite programming language, but when I want to write interesting software and ensure it will be running for the next decade w/o significant changes, Java is really hard to beat.

Of course, in hindsight we know how to do a lot of things better as they were done in Java. Still, what other open source Language/Platform/documentation with the backing of capable companies and really independent and interoperable builds are out there?

One last note to all people which were damaged by Java in university or school: Usually the teachers/professors/lecturers have no real world experience of software development besides the usually university projects, and for the usual university projects which basically means getting small to midsize projects to run Java is total overkill.

Don't confuse this with real world software projects in the industry, which are mission critical and need to work a decade from now on. Java was always a bread and butter language, but one which learned from other languages and even the verbosity makes sense, once one dives into code written a few years back by another person.

I liked Java a lot more before Oracle acquired Sun. I've used Oracle databases enough to hate Oracle with the passion of a supernova.

Java was stagnating under Sun, unfortunately. I hate to say it, but Oracle probably saved Java.

Open jdk is where it's at

Sure, cause c# doesn’t have any original feature’s whatsoever

/s

Kotlin is very similar to C# in my opinion.

It’s a happy middle ground for me

Lary Ellison is one of the richest men in the world right and owns some kind of private island or something that he bought basically after showing his shares of Oracle stock?

java was my 5th language, having just missed it as the AP CS language in highschool by a year. oddly i could not get behind such a massive standard library having come from BASIC, Pascal C++, ASM, VHDL. now after 30 years of programing i write Java web services for a living. feels strange.

Show me an Android app written in Java, and I’ll show you the line of developers ready to rewrite it in Kotlin.

In a first year computer science course at uni I can say they teach us Python, Java, and C, all with slightly different use cases.

Lol, as Javanese, It's funny that Javanese ethnic name -> Javanese coffee -> Javanese programming language.

People still keep thinking that I was a programmer or making a typo of Japanese everytime I mention I speak Javanese.

The language was initially called Oak after an oak tree that stood outside

Things could have been a lot different!

But!.. Sun Java included internationalized set of Lucida fonts with proper hinting. Oracle removed that for whatever reason.

JVM isn't mediocre. Really-really.

I don't like something aesthetically about Java, can't quite nail what, and don't like long-long namespace strings, but these are my personal limitations.

Ah. I also don't like OOP.

I hated something about Python, and avoided it, until encountering Tcl which for me fulfills the same role that Pythons seems for many people, but Tcl is really much more pleasant. IMHO.

Haha. I guess I never noticed.

Oddly, I did know some BASIC and I have vague memories of the numeric line starters like 10 with white text on a black background giving it a retro feel.

Oh, I know you can, but it's optional and the syntax is kind of weird. I prefer languages that are strongly typed from the ground up and enforce it.

I think Java was first released just after I graduated. I do program Java at my day job though, and I don’t mind it. It has its quirks but I find I can express myself using Java, but I probably try to think towards much in OO paradigms when I design and code.