Java at 30: How a language designed for a failed gadget became a global powerhouse
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I liked Java a lot more before Oracle acquired Sun. I've used Oracle databases enough to hate Oracle with the passion of a supernova.
Java was stagnating under Sun, unfortunately. I hate to say it, but Oracle probably saved Java.
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I liked Java a lot more before Oracle acquired Sun. I've used Oracle databases enough to hate Oracle with the passion of a supernova.
Open jdk is where it's at
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Java is still massive in corporate software. As in, internal software for corporation's day to day operations. Machinery management, inventory software, point-of-sale applications, floor management, automated finance tracking. Stuff that isn't really cool or talked much about.
And of course there's Java's most important job. Coming up with features and syntax that Microsoft can copy and steal for C#.
Sure, cause c# doesn’t have any original feature’s whatsoever
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If you want to do something java like, try Kotlin. Its a more modern take on java and not developed by Oracle
Kotlin is very similar to C# in my opinion.
It’s a happy middle ground for me
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One Rich Asshole Called Lary Ellison
Lary Ellison is one of the richest men in the world right and owns some kind of private island or something that he bought basically after showing his shares of Oracle stock?
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java was my 5th language, having just missed it as the AP CS language in highschool by a year. oddly i could not get behind such a massive standard library having come from BASIC, Pascal C++, ASM, VHDL. now after 30 years of programing i write Java web services for a living. feels strange.
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I'm still wondering what Java's niche is, it seems like it does everything, but nothing particularly well. I guess it found a home on Android, but I don't think that's because it's particularly well-suited for it.
Show me an Android app written in Java, and I’ll show you the line of developers ready to rewrite it in Kotlin.
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Java was also my first introduction to programming as it was included in Computer Science in final year of school (at college, we did the trusty C).
I think they have replaced Java with Python now in schools because of the latter's popularity and also because many would argue, Python is slightly easier to learn than Java.
In a first year computer science course at uni I can say they teach us Python, Java, and C, all with slightly different use cases.
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Lol, as Javanese, It's funny that Javanese ethnic name -> Javanese coffee -> Javanese programming language.
People still keep thinking that I was a programmer or making a typo of Japanese everytime I mention I speak Javanese.
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Lol, as Javanese, It's funny that Javanese ethnic name -> Javanese coffee -> Javanese programming language.
People still keep thinking that I was a programmer or making a typo of Japanese everytime I mention I speak Javanese.
The language was initially called Oak after an oak tree that stood outside
Things could have been a lot different!
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Java was stagnating under Sun, unfortunately. I hate to say it, but Oracle probably saved Java.
But!.. Sun Java included internationalized set of Lucida fonts with proper hinting. Oracle removed that for whatever reason.
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I attribute Java's uptake to a large amount of marketing and support, which led to a massive ecosystem. Even a mediocre language like this one can find success when propped up like that.
JVM isn't mediocre. Really-really.
I don't like something aesthetically about Java, can't quite nail what, and don't like long-long namespace strings, but these are my personal limitations.
Ah. I also don't like OOP.
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Python is easy, but it can also be infuriating. Every time I use it, I'm reminded how much I loathe the use of whitespace to define blocks, and I really miss the straightforward type annotations of strong, non-dynamically typed languages.
I hated something about Python, and avoided it, until encountering Tcl which for me fulfills the same role that Pythons seems for many people, but Tcl is really much more pleasant. IMHO.
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But!.. Sun Java included internationalized set of Lucida fonts with proper hinting. Oracle removed that for whatever reason.
Haha. I guess I never noticed.
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java was my 5th language, having just missed it as the AP CS language in highschool by a year. oddly i could not get behind such a massive standard library having come from BASIC, Pascal C++, ASM, VHDL. now after 30 years of programing i write Java web services for a living. feels strange.
Oddly, I did know some BASIC and I have vague memories of the numeric line starters like 10 with white text on a black background giving it a retro feel.
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You can annotate types in Python, and it's actually pretty nice when used with Pyright/Pylance.
Oh, I know you can, but it's optional and the syntax is kind of weird. I prefer languages that are strongly typed from the ground up and enforce it.
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I think Java was first released just after I graduated. I do program Java at my day job though, and I don’t mind it. It has its quirks but I find I can express myself using Java, but I probably try to think towards much in OO paradigms when I design and code.
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use bython, python with braces XD
Hasn't been updated since 2018. Does it still work?
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Kotlin is very similar to C# in my opinion.
It’s a happy middle ground for me
Ironic considering C# was supposed to be very similar to Java
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If you want to do something java like, try Kotlin. Its a more modern take on java and not developed by Oracle
I'm so grateful for Kotlin, it gets rid of so much of the annoyances in Java.
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