Jack Dorsey just Announced Bitchat(A secure, decentralized, peer-to-peer messaging app for iOS and macOS that works over Bluetooth mesh networks) Licensed Under Public Domain.
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messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks. No internet
So he's made a shitty version of Briar and crammed crypto into it?
Briar doesn’t have an iOS client an never will
This doesn’t have an android client
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Isnt that what QuickShare and Airdrop solves?
And LocalSend
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Oh great, yet another secure messaging app.
Getting people to move off Messenger or even WhatsApp is tricky enough already for to interview and resistance to change. But even when you can coax them to move, you then often end up in a debate about where to move to. Signal, Briar, Viber, whatever proprietary thing Apple is currently pushing, or the thousands of other options/apps. I guess we can just add this one to that long list.
This is nothing like the ones you list, this is local only no internet
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It's definitely limiting. LoRa wan meshed network is more useful. But most people don't have a LoRa capable device. I could see something like this at a protest or public event at least. If there were enough nodes in the area the network could span hundreds to thousands of feet with the right conditions. But that's a big ask ATM.
Meshtastic requires bespoke hardware, it’ll always stay a marginal tool
This requires: an iPhone.
And someone will make a bridge from this to Meshtastic in a while anyway
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Briar doesn’t have an iOS client an never will
This doesn’t have an android client
Like I said, Briar is better
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This is nothing like the ones you list, this is local only no internet
Okay. But one of my points still stands that there are already a bunch of p2p Bluetooth-based messaging apps out there.
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Smack by Bitchup
Move bitch get out the way
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And LocalSend
QuickShare, AirDrop and LocalSend all use WiFi, which can be a problem when using a VPN (it is for me).
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Okay. But one of my points still stands that there are already a bunch of p2p Bluetooth-based messaging apps out there.
And more is better so people get used to using them and skip the telcos and other stuff that can be tracked
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Isnt that what QuickShare and Airdrop solves?
Airdrop is two people at a time. Say we had a group of 8 people I don’t want to do 7 air drop exchanges to get all the photos.
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QuickShare, AirDrop and LocalSend all use WiFi, which can be a problem when using a VPN (it is for me).
Turn it off temporarily?
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Turn it off temporarily?
Right but turning the VPN off invalidates the purpose of using a VPN. And even if it didn't, it's not convenient to disable on both devices and then turn it back on. The whole purpose of this software is convenience.
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Yeah, fuck Jack.
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Seems rehashed, with more enshittification likely to be baked in. Typical tech bros.
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Oh great, yet another secure messaging app.
Getting people to move off Messenger or even WhatsApp is tricky enough already for to interview and resistance to change. But even when you can coax them to move, you then often end up in a debate about where to move to. Signal, Briar, Viber, whatever proprietary thing Apple is currently pushing, or the thousands of other options/apps. I guess we can just add this one to that long list.
I mean, what is actually needed is a secure messaging app that scrapes wraps existing apps. So when two people send messages through FancyMessages, they are secure. But then if only one person has FancyMessages, and the other has Facebook messenger, then they could still comminicate - the FB user using Messenger as usual, and our hero's FancyMessages app picking up the FB messages and passing them on through the FancyMessages UI.
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I'm happy to see a niche decentralized thing from Jack more than if it was another commercial start-up. And I have nothing against yet another bluetooth chat. But I'm not impressed. In the whitepaper nothing is written about spam protection, so it wouldn't work as a reliable P2P app at scale. And the UI... It's mere a toy for Jack's personal nostalgia about "the good old times". And nostalgia driven development doesn't work in general, I would say.
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Where my bitchat
I read it like that first and thought it was one of these illegal apps to track your partner without them knowing.
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QuickShare, AirDrop and LocalSend all use WiFi, which can be a problem when using a VPN (it is for me).
Sounds like the problem is your vpn client if you cant chose what traffic goes into it
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If you're in Bluetooth range can't you chat with your mouths? Or is it for secretly chatting when you're in a group of people? I don't get the use case.
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Neat idea 10 years ago "discovered" recently by a tech bro who thinks he's the first one to think of it. He got his clicks, I guess.
