How is Signal financed?

So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

Well sounds like a phone number is another option...

Sources:

• Twitter.
• Telegram.

Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?

RSS is a general standard, for everyone to use, TG is not. Yet it's likely that more people use TG than RSS. That's what I meant by market.

Group chat is the most primitive of feed types and is incredibly outdated UX in 2025.

That's like saying that wheel is outdated when we have jet engines. What would you propose instead?

Even RSS - technology from 1999 - has solved the issues telegram is still trying to solve now 26 years later.

Which specific issues and in which regard?

I would like TG to have a tree view representation of discussions, a bit like what web forums have available. Or a view separated into pages, like the same thing, with n posts on one page and page numbers and visible post ids.

I don't like its actual client or its UX in the sense of appearance and widgets. What I meant is that I like what it presents to the user in the sense of entities.

In particular, again, that a community is essentially one thing, where posts with comments and a group chat are projections of the same data. You can see new posts and comments in the group chat, all in one place.

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

You're using appeal to popularity to claim that Telegram has good UX because more users use it which makes no sense unless you have A|B test that you can execute right now to prove your point.

Just because it's popular does not mean it's good especially when the market in this scenario has no choice or vote how the UX is implemented.

Which specific issues and in which regard?

The one you mentioned for starters - following multiple channels in a single feed.

Telegram has a terrible UX for social networking and feed following - it's a private messaging app that has been hacked together into use case it was never made for in the first place and it really shows.

Fuck telegram. I get so many spam messages there.

Sources:

• Twitter.
• Telegram.

Well if you tell them you are using Signal and they adopt it, you sure can.

What is your imaginary boundary here where Telegram makes this easier somehow?

Sources:

• Twitter.
• Telegram.

good news! signal has sticker packs

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

Your secret chats are already being read. Hell, secret chats are probably the first to be read.

A secret chat is only for local privacy, meaning if someone got access to your device they can't find them, nor will you get notifications (in case your partner is watching your screen).

Back when we just had SMS and MMS, they had secret chats, too. They were blatantly marketed as tools to cheat on your partner. GO SMS was one of the first to use them. Its not so blatant anymore, but its still the primary use for "secret" chats.

I remember reading an article that someone figured out everyone's GO SMS images (even secret ones) were uploaded online without any security whatsoever. You could put in the url and some random numbers and get any pictures and voice clips ever sent. And they never fixed it even after it was leaked.

So yeah, not so secret. You want secure.

Edit: Context: Sorry, my ADHD gets the better of me. I mean that there's more likely than not a government backdoor. Other users are unlikely reading your messages, but your messages are more than likely being scanned. Just be careful if you use TG.

I've seen posts in TG that yes, this is a joke and there's been no such deal.

ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c

So.... why don't you delete your account there?