The Current System of Online Advertising has Been Ruled Illegal by The Belgian Court of Appeal. Advertising itself is Still Allowed, but not in a Way That Secretly Tracks Everyone’s Behavior.
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You will have your tor-connected 1024x768 anonymous window and you will like it!
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 10:14 zuletzt editiert vontor-connected
You are unique!
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I disagree. The online advertising industry needs to shrink, and we should probably break up the monopolies.
Look at this chart:
Growth of advertising correlates with enshittification.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 10:14 zuletzt editiert vonI 100% agree and totally get why I am being downvoted, but just disabling advertising or banning tracking cookies are not a magic fix to save the internet from the perspective of the companies that now show these ads. But I am definitely I favour of changes, the enshittication went way to far already. But there is more than big social media platforms is what I mean to say.
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Advertising should be illegal.
The world would be a better place without it.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 10:16 zuletzt editiert vonA lot of advertising is annoying and misleading, even good advertising can lead to people buying stuff they don't need. I am definitely not pro-advertising but it does serve more than monopolistic capitalism, especially on a more local level.
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We have better access to healthcare than France, generally good work-life balance, access to education is cheap (1000 eur for one year at a good university ). People are welcoming but also reserved. It’s raining a lot and we spend a lot of time complaining about it.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 10:28 zuletzt editiert vonI have friends who live there, and they report the same. They visited us for the first time here in London recently, and were quite shocked by the stark differences.
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A lot of those things are also required to render a webpage correctly.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 10:59 zuletzt editiert vonBut isn't most of that client-side processing? Can't I request a vanilla generic page and once it is in my browser to process it to shape it into the window size and extensions I want? Even if it is an adblocker: serve me the ad, I'll block it internally. But I suppose that for dynamic pages with js requests this would become hard to do.
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Someone from a developing nation told me that hating advertising is absolutely a luxury of only wealthy nations. Without ad supported formats LATAM, EMEA, and APAC would have far less access to entertainment and information. It made me reexamine how much of my thoughts on this are privileged.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 11:31 zuletzt editiert vonYou already get the benefit of lower prices for digital products that have the same production cost regarless of where it is sold. I understand that your wages are lower, but I can not like paying a lot more for the same services/
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This is a win for everyone in Europe, and possibly beyond. [Emphasis mine.] Companies may no longer secretly track your behavior based on “consent” given under pressure. Hopefully, this will not only put an end to these dubious practices, but also to those pesky cookie banners.
But we’re not there yet. Regulators have ruled the system illegal, and the court’s ruling has now confirmed it. Still, the companies making billions from this model won’t stop on their own. That’s why European regulators must now truly step up: enforce the law and make sure these companies actually comply.
Regulators try not to get compromised by lobbyists when billions of dollars are at stake.
I sincerely wish you good luck.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 11:31 zuletzt editiert vonI'm sorry but my dream has always been becoming a corrupt politician
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But isn't most of that client-side processing? Can't I request a vanilla generic page and once it is in my browser to process it to shape it into the window size and extensions I want? Even if it is an adblocker: serve me the ad, I'll block it internally. But I suppose that for dynamic pages with js requests this would become hard to do.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 11:34 zuletzt editiert vonYeah it's Javascript that's the issue that can just take all this data in the client and send it wherever. And that's exactly what's happening.
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Not crazy (to me). Charging taxes doesn't make you likely to get re-elected. Taking money from lobbyists and giving them what they want does.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 11:53 zuletzt editiert vonIf the lobbyists have money to pay bribes, then they have money to pay taxes. It doesn't seem like a stretch for the government to get that money without all of the coercion.
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Cookies are old news. What about browser fingerprinting which can track you across websites? https://www.amiunique.org/
There's basically no easy way to safeguard against it without making browsing nearly unusable.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:06 zuletzt editiert vonTor Browser in normal mode is quite usable though, you just can't use extensions and you need to start a new session whenever you use other websites so they can't track you via cookies. Mullvad Browser is quite similar too.
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This is a win for everyone in Europe, and possibly beyond. [Emphasis mine.] Companies may no longer secretly track your behavior based on “consent” given under pressure. Hopefully, this will not only put an end to these dubious practices, but also to those pesky cookie banners.
But we’re not there yet. Regulators have ruled the system illegal, and the court’s ruling has now confirmed it. Still, the companies making billions from this model won’t stop on their own. That’s why European regulators must now truly step up: enforce the law and make sure these companies actually comply.
Regulators try not to get compromised by lobbyists when billions of dollars are at stake.
I sincerely wish you good luck.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:08 zuletzt editiert von axel7fb5@lemmy.cafe 6. Nov. 2025, 14:09Big corpos aren't going to comply and pay a small fine instead. https://proton.me/tech-fines-tracker
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Yeah it's Javascript that's the issue that can just take all this data in the client and send it wherever. And that's exactly what's happening.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:15 zuletzt editiert vonWhat's the solution?
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From time to time, important news gets overshadowed by other headlines, even though it could have a profound impact on our (online) world. To most of us, few things are more bothersome than the dreaded cookie banners. On countless websites, you’re confronted with a pesky pop-up urging you to agree to something. You end up consenting without really knowing what it is. If you try to figure out what’s going on, you quickly get lost among the often hundreds of “partners” who want access to your personal data. Even if you do give your consent, it’s questionable whether you truly understand what you’re agreeing to.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:16 zuletzt editiert vonEven if idiots with enough money stay unleashed this is great news. One step at a time. Thanks for sharing!
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What's the solution?
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:17 zuletzt editiert vonI'm not sure a technical solution is feasible, other than dns-blocking these trackers. I suppose lawmakers need to spring into action to make this shit illegal.
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Big corpos aren't going to comply and pay a small fine instead. https://proton.me/tech-fines-tracker
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:17 zuletzt editiert vonWe need the corporate death penalty.
Or at least take 100% of their revenue (not profit) until they comply.
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how is Belgium to live in and what would it look like to live there right now?
It's literally between France, Germany and the Netherlands, I mean geographically yes but roughly culturally too. Arguably Brussels is a mix of all that and other cities again match where they are.
So... it's a Western European country with good quality of life
despitethanks to having one of the very highest taxes rate. You don't have to be a socialist to be here but if you want to become a rich entrepreneur it's going to be challenging.Source : immigrated there from France ~10 years ago.
Edit: s/despite/thanks to/
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:39 zuletzt editiert von prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6. Nov. 2025, 14:39it's a Western European country with good quality of life despite having one of the very highest taxes rate.
"Despite"? Try, "because"
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I'm not sure a technical solution is feasible, other than dns-blocking these trackers. I suppose lawmakers need to spring into action to make this shit illegal.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 12:42 zuletzt editiert vonThat is indeed the solution.
A technical solution won't cut it. Here's a very convoluted example: the <p> tag allows you to send the text "buy illegal drugs here" to kids!! Omg!!! What to do? Remove the <p> tag? Obviously not. You ban the practice.
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it's a Western European country with good quality of life despite having one of the very highest taxes rate.
"Despite"? Try, "because"
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 13:02 zuletzt editiert vonI think they’re actually right about this one, taxes tend to cover things that give you high standard of living more than quality of life.
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From time to time, important news gets overshadowed by other headlines, even though it could have a profound impact on our (online) world. To most of us, few things are more bothersome than the dreaded cookie banners. On countless websites, you’re confronted with a pesky pop-up urging you to agree to something. You end up consenting without really knowing what it is. If you try to figure out what’s going on, you quickly get lost among the often hundreds of “partners” who want access to your personal data. Even if you do give your consent, it’s questionable whether you truly understand what you’re agreeing to.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 13:39 zuletzt editiert vonwow i didn't know belgium was based. I guess i was wrong when i thought they peaked with french fries
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I'm not sure a technical solution is feasible, other than dns-blocking these trackers. I suppose lawmakers need to spring into action to make this shit illegal.
schrieb am 11. Juni 2025, 13:59 zuletzt editiert vonYou could probably set a cap on how many different fingerprinty attributes a script is allowed to grab before requesting permission from the user.