My AI Skeptic Friends Are All Nuts
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"AI" is not the new NFT because "AI" doesn't even exist. It's a far bigger and far worse grift. Sure, some dummies wasted their money on jpgs of monkeys. But nobody used NFTs to murder palestinian kids, spy on society, steal our data, outlaw regulation, etc. No amount of shitty generated code will redeem that. Ofc this delusional myopic article has nothing to say about this.
"AI" is a far worse grift than NFTs.
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 18:07 zuletzt editiert vonReplace AI with Excel in your argument and repeat it again. Do you see how silly you sound?
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 18:35 zuletzt editiert von
Developers are resentful toward AI for the same reason they resented blockchain--it becomes a buzz word that every middle manager is convinced will improve productivity, and it's forced whether it's actually helpful or not.
I work on safety-critical code. AI is useless here, but we have to "use" it to appease clueless shareholders.
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schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 03:34 zuletzt editiert von hiddenlayer555@lemmy.ml 6. Apr. 2025, 05:51
The issue with AI is not that it's not an impressive technology, it's that it's built on stolen data and is incredibly wasteful of resources. It's a lot like cars in that regard, sure it solves some problems and is more convenient than the alternatives, but its harmful externalities vastly outweigh the benefits.
LLMs are amazing because they steal the amazing work of humans. Encyclopedias, scientific papers, open source projects, fiction, news, etc. Every time the LLM gets something right, it's because a human figured it out, their work was published, and some company scraped it without permission. Yet it's the LLM that gets the credit and not the person. Their very existence is unjust because they profit off humanity's collective labour and give nothing in return.
No matter how good the technology is, if it's made through unethical means, it doesn't deserve to exist. You're not entitled to AI more than content creators are entitled to their intellectual property.
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Remember when everybody was making "smart" toasters and fridges and shit with cameras or WiFi for absolutely no reason.
This is that all over again.
Nobody needs "AI" in their water kettles, dryers, or dildos.
schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 06:34 zuletzt editiert vonThis is a pretty good take imo
Like AI, IoT is an important and lasting technology
But too many businesses and products jumped on a misguided bandwagon to pull stupid uniformed VC money
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The issue with AI is not that it's not an impressive technology, it's that it's built on stolen data and is incredibly wasteful of resources. It's a lot like cars in that regard, sure it solves some problems and is more convenient than the alternatives, but its harmful externalities vastly outweigh the benefits.
LLMs are amazing because they steal the amazing work of humans. Encyclopedias, scientific papers, open source projects, fiction, news, etc. Every time the LLM gets something right, it's because a human figured it out, their work was published, and some company scraped it without permission. Yet it's the LLM that gets the credit and not the person. Their very existence is unjust because they profit off humanity's collective labour and give nothing in return.
No matter how good the technology is, if it's made through unethical means, it doesn't deserve to exist. You're not entitled to AI more than content creators are entitled to their intellectual property.
schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 07:45 zuletzt editiert von auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6. Apr. 2025, 10:54It’s built on publicly available data, the same way that humans learn, by reading and observing what is accessible. Many are also now trained on licensed, opt-in and synthetic data.
They don’t erase credit they amplify access to human ideas.
Training consumes energy, but its ongoing usage to query is vastly cheaper to query than most industrial processes. You’re assuming it cannot reduce our energy usage by improving efficiency and removing manual labour.
“If something is made unethically, it shouldn’t exist”
By that logic, nearly all modern technology (from smartphones to pharmaceuticals) would be invalidated.
And fyi I am an anarchist and do not think intellectual property is a valid thing to start with.
I think you're also underestimating the benefits cars have ushered, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone serious that can show that the harm has 'outweighed their benefits'
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 10:30 zuletzt editiert von
Copilot in Code is hell. It pops code suggestions almost after every keystroke. Idiotic suggestions mostly.
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Copilot in Code is hell. It pops code suggestions almost after every keystroke. Idiotic suggestions mostly.
schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 13:08 zuletzt editiert vonYou can configure that I think? (The every keystroke, not the stupidity)
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Remember when everybody was making "smart" toasters and fridges and shit with cameras or WiFi for absolutely no reason.
This is that all over again.
Nobody needs "AI" in their water kettles, dryers, or dildos.
schrieb am 4. Juni 2025, 13:46 zuletzt editiert von"This is just plain fuckin' stupid. Your neighbor gets a dildo that plays 'O Come, All Ye Faithful' and you wanna get one too!"
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Developers are resentful toward AI for the same reason they resented blockchain--it becomes a buzz word that every middle manager is convinced will improve productivity, and it's forced whether it's actually helpful or not.
I work on safety-critical code. AI is useless here, but we have to "use" it to appease clueless shareholders.
schrieb am 5. Juni 2025, 02:05 zuletzt editiert vonWhat would happen if you collectively put your foot down on zero "AI code" to management, with such critical applications?
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What would happen if you collectively put your foot down on zero "AI code" to management, with such critical applications?
schrieb am 5. Juni 2025, 03:07 zuletzt editiert vonI'm a senior with a good boss, I pretty much just ignore it. And fortunately, at least in my company, most people have done that (especially with the safety critical stuff). But management still has a way of making your life miserable when you stand your ground on this kind of thing, so it's also common to just tell them some bullshit and go about your job.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 9. Juni 2025, 12:02 zuletzt editiert von
I just remembered the sidequest in Cyberpunk 2077 with the guy that had a faulty Mr. Stud implanted...
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Remember when everybody was making "smart" toasters and fridges and shit with cameras or WiFi for absolutely no reason.
This is that all over again.
Nobody needs "AI" in their water kettles, dryers, or dildos.
schrieb am 9. Juni 2025, 12:03 zuletzt editiert vonIDK connecting a electronic masturbation device to a chatbot so it can robotically tell you how its raping you and you deserve it because you're a worthless human is kinda hot.
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IDK connecting a electronic masturbation device to a chatbot so it can robotically tell you how its raping you and you deserve it because you're a worthless human is kinda hot.
schrieb am 9. Juni 2025, 15:26 zuletzt editiert vonAnd combined with a smart watch and a blood pressure cuff, I bet it could learn to edge you perfectly and indefinitely.
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This guy's argument is that he's a 10xer because he's using AI effectively, i.e. just proofreading its output and deleting the comments. (Also, why hire juniors when you can get the same work for $20/mo?)
I think this is a losing strategy unless all senior devs never retire and are immortal. (Or unless GAI happens in which case the world economy will collapse and who cares about strategy.)
It looks like what's happening is that way fewer companies are willing to invest in juniors now, leading to falling enrollment in university, leading to a shortage of seniors, leading to very high dev pay, leading to increased enrollment. Eventually.
schrieb am 10. Juni 2025, 18:50 zuletzt editiert vonThis guy (a founding engineer of fly.io ) isn't claiming his 10x status in the article on the grounds that he uses AI
Indeed, he's claiming that he gets value from AI despite being a 10xer without it
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Remember when everybody was making "smart" toasters and fridges and shit with cameras or WiFi for absolutely no reason.
This is that all over again.
Nobody needs "AI" in their water kettles, dryers, or dildos.
schrieb am 10. Juni 2025, 18:56 zuletzt editiert vonI gave you the up vote because it's a good take, but this really has nothing to do with the article, so I can tell that you and a bunch of your 58 up voters didn't read it
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I gave you the up vote because it's a good take, but this really has nothing to do with the article, so I can tell that you and a bunch of your 58 up voters didn't read it
schrieb am 10. Juni 2025, 20:21 zuletzt editiert vonI did read it, and my comment is exactly referencing the attitude of the author which is "It's good enough, so you should use it". I disagree, and say it's another dumbass shortcut to cash grab on a less than stellar ecosystem and product. It's training wheels for failure.
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