You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning
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until google decides thats not allowed either
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 15:44 zuletzt editiert vonYup, but for now it's a solution
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 15:44 zuletzt editiert vonDammit don't make me switch to apple phones, I hate apple. I hate Google too but FFS all you need to do is stay out of my way and the one thing you continuously do is stand in my way...
GTFO of my way! Piss off with that AI crap that nobody asked for
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I can also recommend CalyxOS. Locked bootloaders, open source emulation of all Google's play services (meaning an open source binary running on your phone, filtering requests to Google's servers with absolutely minimal/random info).
Basically I have anonymized access to the play store, and any apps I install other than Google pay work, no issue. ~~I believe even Google's secure features work. There's a reddit post about MitID: https://www.reddit.com/r/CalyxOS/comments/w2ordg/a_proven_way_to_use_calyxos_and_banking_apps_etc/~~
E: having read through the technical comments on graphene's forums, looks like play integrity prevents MitID from running. The service offers free code generators which hang on your keys though.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 15:48 zuletzt editiert vonDo you happen to use android auto? Does that work OK? I could go without, but that's one integration that's just got it's hooks on me hard.
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Why is this a Google Pixel only ROM? Anything special with the Google Pixel?
I even consider Chinese phones a better hardware dela than what Google does, and I know Google software (I mainly use AOSP ROMs, Pixel OS in this case) but if we are swapping right away the ROM of the Pixel and the hardware is subpar what's the deal with it?
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 15:57 zuletzt editiert vonCheck out this thread. They go into detail about it.
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That'll be the day I switch phones.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:00 zuletzt editiert vonIf I have to use a walled garden, then I'll go the OG Apple daddy.
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Dammit don't make me switch to apple phones, I hate apple. I hate Google too but FFS all you need to do is stay out of my way and the one thing you continuously do is stand in my way...
GTFO of my way! Piss off with that AI crap that nobody asked for
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:01 zuletzt editiert vonAn ungoogled android variant has to be a lot lesser of an evil, no?
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Just... Disable it. You can switch to the old assistant.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:01 zuletzt editiert vonI wish I knew how. Did this several times already, it always magically turns back on after a couple of weeks.
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Can you get by with web access? That's what I do and it's fine.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:04 zuletzt editiert vonYup. I use my bank's website on my phone. Works plenty fine for me.
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It's mostly lemmy. In real life people go from amused to indifferent. I have never met anyone as hostile as the lemmy consensus seems to be. If a feature is useful people will use it, be it AI or not AI. Some AI features are gimmicks and they largely get ignored, unless very intrusive (in which case the intrusivity, not the AI, is the problem).
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:09 zuletzt editiert vonIt’s one of the reasons I use Lemmy a little less these days as it’s evident to me that it’s an echo chamber for a tiny subset of humanity and at times it just feels like a circle jerk where real change isn’t an option.
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Unfortunately banking apps are only going to get harder to run on software uncertified by Google.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:11 zuletzt editiert vonJust monopoly things.
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:22 zuletzt editiert vonThis headline format makes me irrationally annoyed.
They shouldn't be making assumptions about what the reader thinks. It almost feels like they're planting a bias first and then presenting the facts - instead of just laying things out and letting people make up their own minds.
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:24 zuletzt editiert vonGemini depends on the Google app, disable it, and it dies.
Have you noticed how the Google app, the one that supposedly just does search and list news articles, has like 400 MB? Over time it accumulated 2GB cache... how?
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Do you happen to use android auto? Does that work OK? I could go without, but that's one integration that's just got it's hooks on me hard.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:40 zuletzt editiert vonAndroid auto works on an ungoogled phone last i tried, it does take some tinkering though
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:41 zuletzt editiert vonso this has got me looking at alternative OSs, but it's all a bit confusing. which one is most mature and would still let me run android apps (I want my bank apps and stuff like that) but is also somewhat de-googled? I appreciate any advice
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:43 zuletzt editiert von peteyestee@feddit.orgToo bad we can't get a Linux OS.
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Is it really the people or just a subset of people that use Lemmy, the vast majority of people seemingly don’t care as is evidenced by the sheer number of people using things like social media.
What might be important to use in this echo chamber isn’t reflective of society on the whole.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:44 zuletzt editiert von nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.comit's mostly just talk. people will hate it and use it at the same time
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:46 zuletzt editiert vonthats what you get when using software from US corpo. all your reasons to have apple and google are fake. convenience and laziness are the reason we use them. i mean if you use whatsapp youre a subhuman why care about gemini. thats the path to idiocracy.
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The companies keep preloading it on new tech, updating old tech so its there, preventing the option from disabling it from even being there, and disabling tech that can't use it.
This. Shit. Can. Fuck. All. The. Way. Off!
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:47 zuletzt editiert von"oh didn we make it not just an automatic update, but you can't even opt out? Oops! Hee hee don't worry, you'll love it in no time. Which is why we're forcing it on you. You're welcome."
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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:47 zuletzt editiert vonIt's conforting that I wasn't the only one who found this concerning. But anyways I don't have Google (the app; I do have some other Google services installed) or Gemini installed.
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All I need is a good enough emulation of android apps to fool them (eg for banking).
schrieb am 25. Juni 2025, 16:48 zuletzt editiert von"Hello there." - Play Integrity API
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