Personally I don't use YouTube the website at all at this point. I'm 100℅ Freetube and yt-dlp/Plex for watching the channels I like.

The alternatives are there. They don't have the volume of course, but they're very much born...

youtube shadowbanning, demonitization and censorship is the most retarded shit that's ever happened to the internet. the whole website is videos and comments of people who cater to kids and commercial advertisers and cant say shit.

Content speak continously erodes my frontal lobe.

We will (still) allow children's cartoon characters to be mutilated and put into explicit situations and then push them as child friendly, but how dare you use a swear in the first 15 seconds of a video or say the work kill.

I'm not sure of what you mean at the end there.

I see youtube content. I do not pay for it and they are likely unhappy that I get to use it as they get zero benefit from it.

Yep. It's exactly what Facebook did not long ago. It's just the most open oligarchy you can imagine, just consolidating their interests to push fascism at full throttle.

Its gonna be interesting, knowing some world cup is gonna happen on US soil as well.

Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

Example: Unaliving; PDF file; grape; etc.

Reality: Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and other right wing grifters receive zero censorship while YouTubers still have to self censor to receive monetization.

I am Jack’s lack of surprise.

YouTube started to censor foss content for being violet and dangerous.

See the issue here is Google/Youtube still get to be the ones to decide what "may outweigh the harm risk". And the answer I bet will usually be whichever one serves their financial interests.

Which on one hand sure, it is their platform after all. But don't do me dry and claim you used lube.

First thought exactly.

That's fine, still YouTube at its core though.

Yes they are, some from the very conception of YouTube perhaps, but they are not real alternatives a real alternative would be one where all your subscriptions also upload the same content there, it is totally not YT based and you get the same or similar ecosystem Google provides, I don't think too many channels fit this.

I mean, if your requirement for a youtube alternative is that it's as big as YouTube, you're just guaranteeing that there will never be a YouTube alternative...

Yeah perhaps, we are here on Lemmy after all, which I consider a Reddit alternative, but with YouTube the thing is different because we follow individuals, and here we follow subjects, hopefully somebody can truly stand out against Google in the video field, a movement big enough to motivate content creators to check it out, the last thing I hear was about Odysee, which I think is a step in the right direction.

I still wouldn't trust Google not to nuke my channel on a whim even in spite of those relaxed moderation rules. What's stopping a little bribe from the right company or political party from causing them to backpedal or even tighten their grip further?

This is why one should at least mirror their content to PeerTube or a similar alternative platform like that even if they're not going to just outright post future content to said alternative and give up on YT altogether.

Peertube is also a thing. Obviously, someone can't make it on Peertube alone, but lots of folk out there upload to YouTube and to Peertube

How long before Google locks YT down to loading only on Chrome, and only on Windows, Mac, ChromeOS, or Android, and only without ad blockers of any kind, including hardware ad blockers like PiHole being implemented anywhere, and straight-up blocking it from loading at all on non-Chrome browsers (to also include other Chromium browsers) and on Linux or iOS, and enforcing TPM2 and SecureBoot mandates for authentication, and blocking downloading and re-uploading of YT vids, using DRM?

Basically, I wouldn't put it above them to ensure their video platform only runs on their browser, and only on hardware that they deem worthy of running it, even if it means somehow implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit. Something else I wouldn't put it past Google to try, is completely discontinuing the YT browser client and fully locking the API down to the official app, and still implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit on that.

They won't ever say it out loud but they have always removed videos for mentioning alternative frontends or other technology they view as direct threats to their revenue stream.