How Do I Prepare My Phone for a Protest?
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Or get a burner
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 01:53 zuletzt editiert vonAnd get a burner.
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Why do you need an ID? Leave it in your car if you're driving.
I don't think there's a single state that requires you to actually carry documentation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes
These are the states that require you to at least verbally state your name, and only if the officer has reasonable suspicion that you have or will commit a crime.
They can ask your name. You may not have to answer.
Research your state's law on this before you go. It's in the link.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 01:56 zuletzt editiert vonThere's legal requirements, then there's practical dealings with officers in the field. Seems to me that these days if you're "undocumented" you're asking to be sent to processing which can be a quick trip to a center somewhere across the country, if that's the mood they're in. After you get out you can try to sue them, maybe even win, but how long before you collect your damages?
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They’re detaining people with Real IDs for hours at a time. It likely makes no difference.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 01:57 zuletzt editiert vonWhen they've got a cell full of detainees and they're deciding who ICE is going to ship to "advanced processing" who do you think goes to the front of that line? I'm guessing it's the "undocumented," regardless of whatever laws you're focused on.
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And get a burner.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 02:30 zuletzt editiert vonYeah. And, leave the other at home. Somehow, that mutual exclusivity between devices made me write "or". Hehe.
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Leica digital or chemical film?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 03:27 zuletzt editiert vonm10p with a 28mm and a flash
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Its important because you endanger not just yourself but anyone who is possibly linked through your activities. Your actions are your own responsibility. If you are able to protect others in this Situations you should.
And i hope you only document voilation oft power with your leika and not others protesting.schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 03:32 zuletzt editiert voni don't know what you just said but the whole point of a protest is to disrupt in order to be seen.
I went to jail for trespassing. same as everyone else. its bullshit.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 03:47 zuletzt editiert vonYOU DONT BRING IT.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 03:52 zuletzt editiert vonBy leaving it at home.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 05:33 zuletzt editiert vonSet your phone on top of a Roomba that has scheduled cleaning throughout the day.
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Set your phone on top of a Roomba that has scheduled cleaning throughout the day.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 05:50 zuletzt editiert vonPointless, unless you leave the roomba running outdoors. Indoors you don't have GPS coverage, and your phone is logged onto the same cell tower anyway. Might just leave it stationary at home, same outcome.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 05:56 zuletzt editiert vonBuy a Burner.
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Even with a libre OS and all radios turned off? (So to use the phone as a camera and offline navigation)
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 05:57 zuletzt editiert vonI feel like it could still get damaged or used as evidence in court if you get caught up in a crackdown.
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They likely have the data to show it didn't move at all. Eg it wasn't on your person.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 06:53 zuletzt editiert vonYou underestimate how much of a couch potato I am. Not moving is normal lol.
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You underestimate how much of a couch potato I am. Not moving is normal lol.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 06:59 zuletzt editiert vonEven sitting on a couch moves your phone more than simply laying on a table. They can use accelerometer data to determine how, if at all, it moved.
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There's legal requirements, then there's practical dealings with officers in the field. Seems to me that these days if you're "undocumented" you're asking to be sent to processing which can be a quick trip to a center somewhere across the country, if that's the mood they're in. After you get out you can try to sue them, maybe even win, but how long before you collect your damages?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 07:20 zuletzt editiert vonThis. You've got to ask yourself, what your goal when interacting with law enforcement is. It it your goal to stand up for every right? Or do you want to get away for the interaction as easy as possible?
Let me give you an example of what I mean. I Denmark police can stop and ID you without a cause. You don't have to provide an ID, but you have to state your name, address, and birthday. If you don't, then you'll be arrested. Our SSNs consists of birthday and a checksum. You're not required to state your SSN checksum, but if you do state it, the police will have to pay you if the stop is longer than 10min.
So giving the police a little more than they're entitled to, can get you out of the interaction a lot easier.
Of course you can stand up for your rights, and if you want to fight, then do it. But it will make your day harder.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 08:36 zuletzt editiert vonIf your phone is powered your location can be tracked.
Secured or not: your location can always be tracked.The rest is doubtful, always assume law enforcement has access at will.
Just don't bring it.
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Shared here for public benefit.
Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 09:13 zuletzt editiert vonDon't bring it?!
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Pointless, unless you leave the roomba running outdoors. Indoors you don't have GPS coverage, and your phone is logged onto the same cell tower anyway. Might just leave it stationary at home, same outcome.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 10:02 zuletzt editiert vonYou definitely can get GPS coverage inside. It's entirely building dependant but I'm inside right now and if I open GPS it'll just work.
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When I shut the lid on my work computer I assumed it was "off" or at least inactive. My home network showed me it was continuing to "check in" throughout the night.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 10:03 zuletzt editiert vonClosing the lid typically does sleep or hibernate, both of which can still be active. I've had many windows updates overnight with the lid closed.
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Even sitting on a couch moves your phone more than simply laying on a table. They can use accelerometer data to determine how, if at all, it moved.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 10:11 zuletzt editiert vonFor that , someone mentioned a roomba or straping it to a dogs collar..