You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning
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Android is Linux… sure.
But it’s not what anyone means when they say they want a Linux phone.
Its a vexingly pedantic point.
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I do have it disabled, but this article suggests that it will ignore that and it will be integrated in apps that I really really don't want it in. I could stomach it if it was search and other functionality like that only, or even if it 100% ran local with no ability to phone home and train on my data, but it doesn't. Not that it can be listening to calls, reading messages, etc, I'm definitely hard out.
Re-read the article. All this feature does is give you the ability to say 'set a timer for 10 minutes' or 'start a phone call to John'.
If you have 'Gemini apps activity' off then they won't use anything you say to train their models.
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Well I guess I’m glad I moved over to apple. But I guess the enshitification of all our phones is coming soon.
Yeah only reason Apple hasn't done it is because they haven't figured out a way to connect it all to its ecosystem.
Like they say, the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Why do you keep Gemini installed? Does it even work offline?
Android users won't have a choice after a while.
I didn't want Google Now. Uninstalled it, and it's back and updated. Been fighting for years.
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Not what I said.
What you said only makes sense if you believe that to be true.
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I have a Pixel phone im bout to throw in the river
Second that, graphene os is really nice. I have all my intrusive work apps like team, google play stuff on a separate profile and my maim profile has all the private data and contacts.
Just watch a yt for setup and follow website instructions, take maybe a few hours to set up. -
Re-read the article. All this feature does is give you the ability to say 'set a timer for 10 minutes' or 'start a phone call to John'.
If you have 'Gemini apps activity' off then they won't use anything you say to train their models.
There is a clarification from Google in he article that I don't believe was there when I first posted. It still by default allows Gemini to have access to things I don't want it to access, which is anything. It can be blocked through the Gemini apps activity, but I don't think that was clear in the OG text.
None the less, they claim that it will be completely offline and that no information will be used to train their models. I believe that's probably true in the short term, but I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, and I've got fucked up shoulders. I've little doubt that they will change policy in 6 months to a year so that some data is sent anonymously.
I just want it so if I say don't allow this thing at all, ever, that stays true and they don't make me later opt out of that thing.
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Nextcloud sucks in many ways, but it is functional and works for me.
I use it, too. Never had any problems with it.
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minds well
/c/boneappletea
People say this so commonly where I'm from. I was never aware that this is not the correct way to say it.
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MitID is hard-required to sign into anything government or personal information required. Previously people would be handed a key-card (a white, fold-out card with a bunch of numbers on it. The numbers were one-time use, so the card would eventually run out, requiring a replacement after a few months).
These key-cards have been completely phased out. Now there is the MitID app or a key-device that is almost impossible to get (you'll basically have to prove that you don't have/can't use a smart phone).
The MitID app has almost no features at all. It's specifically used for authentication. You log into the gooberment website or bank website, then a encrypted, constantly changing QR code pops up. You open the MitID app on your phone, scan the QR code, and then you gain access.
This is all run through the private security company the Danish government has hired, called "NETS".
Something must have changed since I got my physical code display then, because I simply went to their webpage and ordered a free code display device a while ago.
https://www.mitid.dk/bestil-mitid-identifikationsmiddel/ -
Well, in this example, the information provided by the AI was simply wrong. If it had done the traditional search method of pointing to the organization's website where they had the hours listed, it would have worked fine.
This idea that "we're all entitled to our opinion" is nonsense. That's for when you're a child and the topic is what flavor Jelly Bean you like. It's not for like policy or things that matter. You can't just "it's my opinion" your way through "this algorithm is O(n^2) but I like it better than O(n) so I'm going to use it for my big website". Or more on topic, you can't use it for "these results are wrong but I like them better"
Traditional search often is also wrong, showing some 3rd party website or a link farm.
With AI search I get a summary AND the result list, so I have more info to make a decision.
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Traditional search often is also wrong, showing some 3rd party website or a link farm.
With AI search I get a summary AND the result list, so I have more info to make a decision.
Well, yes, Google has been becoming shittier for years as they prioritize ads and fail to deal with SEO slop. You have to know what's a good source, but that was true even when we were doing research in libraries.
The AI summary is making the problem worse. The information it provides is not trustworthy. It also deprives site owners from traffic. It's really bad on like every metric.
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There are levels to it. The advanced level is using a custom Android ROM for your phone that has no Google play services/apps on it and that'll depend on what's available for your phone from community ROM makers. You can see if any of these support your phone or plan any future phone of yours around these
https://itsfoss.com/android-distributions-roms/
An easier first step is just starting with non-Google apps. You can start with replacing Google apps like replace Maps with Organic Maps or something similar. Replace Gmail with something like Proton Mail. Same with calendar and cloud storage. Proton has alternatives. They even have an okay Google docs feature. Use a different search engine like duckduckgo rather than Google.
F-droid as an app store. Instead of Google authenticator use Aegis. Instead of Chrome use Firefox or a fork of it.
It's difficult so a process over time of lessening dependency on Google applications
But what about banking apps and surch?
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Android is Linux… sure.
But it’s not what anyone means when they say they want a Linux phone.
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People say this so commonly where I'm from. I was never aware that this is not the correct way to say it.
People say it everywhere, but it’s “might as well”.
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I have a Pixel phone im bout to throw in the river
I can't bring myself to use a Pixel because I don't trust Google-everything. I have so much to say, and yet I've said it a thousand times already. So I'm just gonna sigh.
And yes, I know I'm on Android either way.
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Why not throw graphene or another alternative on it (if supported) instead of turning it into e-waste?
Isn't graphene left for dead because of Google being a bunch of dildos?
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But what about banking apps and surch?
I'd imagine you can do everything on the website, which can likely be made into an 'app' on Firefox via the "Add to Home screen" option.
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Well, yes, Google has been becoming shittier for years as they prioritize ads and fail to deal with SEO slop. You have to know what's a good source, but that was true even when we were doing research in libraries.
The AI summary is making the problem worse. The information it provides is not trustworthy. It also deprives site owners from traffic. It's really bad on like every metric.
The AI summary is additive, I don't see how it makes it worse. I find it useful to save time and it's right in most cases, if I need something of vital importance (like the opening time for a shop) I don't use search results anyway, I go to maps where I expect to find a link to their official website (not trusting the opening hours on maps either).
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Isn't graphene left for dead because of Google being a bunch of dildos?
There are ways they can work around it, but their lead developer was drafted into their country's military. Ultimately, they're going to have to make their own phone, and it looks like they're making plans to do that.
For now, it's fine.