The Arc Browser Is Dead
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You absolutely do have pinned tabs on FF. They go double column when you shrink down the sidebar, too, which I like. And they work with tab groups. Can't believe those took so long to steal from Chrome. Did support for groups get integrated into Zen as well? That's probably my line in the sand these days.
I was interested in the Glance concept, but I did not love the implementation. It was hard to tell when you were inside a Glance tab and I ended up struggling to deploy those into a persistent tab if I wanted to keep them for later. The idea was intriguing, but I never clicked with the details of the UX. It always took a little bit more thinking to work around than just... right clicking into new tab, I guess.
The pinned tabs are closer to the essentials though that's the thing, it lacks that 2 layer separation based on purpose.
Wdym hard to tell you're in a glance tab? It's an overlayed smaller box, and the tab that has it open also gets an icon. Plus you never go into it accidentally, unless you're clicking on a link in an essential tab it's going to be manually entered.
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It wasn't supposed to stay Apple exclusive. In fact, when I last used Windows there was a beta build out for Arc. However, there were also multiple Firefox styles in the CSS Store that made Firefox into Arc.
Then Zen Browser came out, and I'm currently watching it get very popular. I don't doubt that Zen Browser is one of the reasons Arc is shutting down. It's nearly an exact copy, but now with more features (and is constantly coming out with even more faster than Arc can think of them).
I'm excited for Ladybird as well, but I'm not expecting anything crazy when it comes out of alpha and beta. I fully expect to wait a bit, maybe download to contribute some troubleshooting, but it may not be viable as a main use browser for a long time yet.
It'll be a great browser by 2029 IMO, and honestly that's not that long compared to the development time all other browsers have had.
We shall see, I'm excited to start testing it out next year when it's in Alpha
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So, no Windows, no Linux, no head?
There is a windows and mobile tab on their website
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That's very sad to hear. I am currently using Arc as my main browser for work (I am a web developer) since its launch on MacOS. Guess I need to switch browsers soon then...
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That's very sad to hear. I am currently using Arc as my main browser for work (I am a web developer) since its launch on MacOS. Guess I need to switch browsers soon then...
It's not dead. As far as I can tell the author just made that up, because they didn't cite any sources, and the actual official sources indicate otherwise. But I can recommend switching to Zen nonetheless.
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It'll be a great browser by 2029 IMO, and honestly that's not that long compared to the development time all other browsers have had.
We shall see, I'm excited to start testing it out next year when it's in Alpha
You can already test it out in very early alpha, but I can tell you now that it's just a portal with very basic browser controls. You'll have to build it through the Python script.
I built it through Arch already and its a working browser is about all I can really say about it. The little I tried of it works.
The instructions to build the early alpha are on the github page here.
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When I eventually managed to test Arc, I felt it was a very overhyped browser. I couldn't see what the fuss was about.
Yeah, I just don't trust people's recommendations of browsers.
Most of them are too stupid to realize what's going on and how they're being herded like sheep.
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Right, thanks!
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You can already test it out in very early alpha, but I can tell you now that it's just a portal with very basic browser controls. You'll have to build it through the Python script.
I built it through Arch already and its a working browser is about all I can really say about it. The little I tried of it works.
The instructions to build the early alpha are on the github page here.
I built it through arch
Just had to sneak that in, didn't you?
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Yeah, I just don't trust people's recommendations of browsers.
Most of them are too stupid to realize what's going on and how they're being herded like sheep.
What's your recommendation then?
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I built it through arch
Just had to sneak that in, didn't you?
Lol, I just mention it because I have no other experience with Ladybird. There's an Ubuntu/Debian section and a Choco for Windows. I would assume macOS uses homebrew, but I didn't read that far into it. I can only confirm that I got the Arch version working after a bit of compiling.
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What's your recommendation then?
Don't trust it, whatever he says
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What's your recommendation then?
Firefox.
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Never heard of that thing, but apparently it was Apple exclusives? Deserved death then.
I'm hoping ladybug will be operational for mainstream use, before the enshittification of Firefox progresses too far.
Its not apple exclusive. I have it on both my macbook and windows computer
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The Devs at the browser company said themselves that they aren't killing Arc, it's just on maintenance mode as they are working on another browser, an AI first one, which I have mixed feelings about personally.
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Don't trust it, whatever he says
That was the joke I was setting up for
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Firefox.
You mean the one from the company that pays out their CEO a fat $6m salary, paid for by Google bribing Mozilla to be the default search engine?
I don't trust your recommendation. Do you even realise you're being herded like sheep?
(I actually use it too, but I won't pretend they're saints. It also occasionally has trouble with some websites, but I haven't done any comprehensive testing to confirm whether it's browser-specific.)
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You mean the one from the company that pays out their CEO a fat $6m salary, paid for by Google bribing Mozilla to be the default search engine?
I don't trust your recommendation. Do you even realise you're being herded like sheep?
(I actually use it too, but I won't pretend they're saints. It also occasionally has trouble with some websites, but I haven't done any comprehensive testing to confirm whether it's browser-specific.)
Clearly if you arnt building your own web browser from the ground up, your a sheep. This is the only logical conclusion!!1!1!
Lol, but seriously every modern browser is basically crap ran or controlled by a large company that does fucked up or less then ideal things.
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Clearly if you arnt building your own web browser from the ground up, your a sheep. This is the only logical conclusion!!1!1!
Lol, but seriously every modern browser is basically crap ran or controlled by a large company that does fucked up or less then ideal things.
Clearly if you arnt building your own web browser from the ground up, your a sheep. This is the only logical conclusion!!1!1!
Obviously. It's the only way to be sure it has exactly the features I want and nothing else. Anyone recommending anything else has clearly been deluded to accept mediocrity. How else could they think something other than my exact tastes is decent?
Lol, but seriously every modern browser is basically crap ran or controlled by a large company that does fucked up or less then ideal things.
Yeah, it's fucked that we basically have to pick what flavour of shit we'd hate least. And once we're all settled in with our least disgusting brand, we obviously don't want to move anymore. I'm sticking with Firefox and probably will for some time to come. Adjusting to a different UI, migrating all my bookmarks and finding equivalents for my extensions is an effort.
Maybe some alternative will eventually entice me enough to overcome my reluctance to mix up my digital environment. I just hope it'll be by actually being good, rather than just "not as bad".
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Zen also attempts to remove the telemetry that firefox has baked in.
But Zen also has features other than just vertical tabs that are really useful, like Glance.
