Our Channel Could Be Deleted - Gamers Nexus
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So, there are options.
You have three challenges:
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You need to be discoverable
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you need to be accessible
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you need to monetize
If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.
Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.
Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.
Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.
Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.
edit: cut myself short
I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.
What about Rumble? GN is on there and directly supportable.
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Did they hurt your feel feels? Should they have taken it easy on those multi million dollar companies shitty business practices? Don't worry corpo-chan, those companies totally see you and plan an rewarding your loyalty. Lol
No I mean, they can do useful trade job stuff, not that capitalist corpo bullshit job.
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It’s not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted
That's not true. It has to be 3 strikes with merit, so rejected or reverted ones don't count, and they expire after 90 days too.
Ah I didn't know that, so I appreciate the correction. In that case itsa little more click baity... But still good to know if you follow his channel. Thank you!
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To further clarify, his big PB-scale servers are for hosting their archive of raw footage.
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That's fucking insane. I can only imagine how scary it is for those who make YouTube their full-time job.
Play in someone else's walled garden, and they may kick you out and not let you back in. It's not as if people haven't been warning against this since the beginning of youtube.
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There is no good answer to it.
It is ridiculous that a channel which uploads thousands of authentic original content can lose all algorithm momentum from a frivolous DMCA strike removing their video for 10 days.
It basically guarantees a video gets killed. Even if the video gets reinstated after an appeal.This particular video will massively bounce back. People are angry at Nvidia, people are angry with YouTube and with YouTubes DMCA process, and now people are angry at Bloomberg.
And Gamers Nexus isn't gonna let this drop, and GN has earned its communities trust (and I think trust in general) that there will be flocks of people ensuring the video doesn't die.But if this was a smaller channel releasing a massive expose like this, it would probably just drop out off the public's radar before it gets established
DMCA and mass report ads from these companies. Basically fuck with their ad pipeline.
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All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.
Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I'm disappointed that nobody's had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.
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Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.
It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.
I would recommend going to some local art faires, it will soothe your anxiety about the future (of art). I bought a small oil-on-canvas painting of a sailboat at sunset from a young artist at a recent art faire, who was thrilled to talk about art and even tried to give me the painting for free. Creating art by hand is soul-satisfying, and rest assured, my friend, it will never be replaced my AI.
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Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I'm disappointed that nobody's had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.
The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company
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Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.
When I worked with an influencer who made free workout vids, his ad revenue was 80% of income. It was an extreme minority from free videos to buying something in his store.
Then some algorithm change in 2018 broke his entire income, he couldn't afford me, and last I checked, he was sponsored by diet pills or whatever fake garbage.
It's a damn shame because his dream was always to provide free workout vids.
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One strike is nothing.
You're getting downvoted, but this is true. Nearly everyone who does youtube has gotten a strike at some point, me included. It goes away after 90 days. This means you can get a strike almost every month and keep going.
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I would recommend going to some local art faires, it will soothe your anxiety about the future (of art). I bought a small oil-on-canvas painting of a sailboat at sunset from a young artist at a recent art faire, who was thrilled to talk about art and even tried to give me the painting for free. Creating art by hand is soul-satisfying, and rest assured, my friend, it will never be replaced my AI.
God I hope you’re right. We create such beautiful things. I’d hate to see humanity become so hollow that we stoop to accepting AI slop as art.
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The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company
It was sooooo good in retrospect.
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Easier than that. Just put it on peertube
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Either way the creative control is compromised, just in different ways.
We live in a society... What makes you think he'd even have a channel if he didn't need money?
Most of anything exist because people need money for food. Companies, technology, stuff. If people didn't need money the channel most likely wouldn't exist since stuff largely wouldn't exist.
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Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.
People with enough of a viewership would still be offered sponsorship for videos. Like YouTubers who do their own ads in videos.
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assuming they didn't keep 8K, Just the raw 4k footage from just the wan show for one year would be ~150tb
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What about Rumble? GN is on there and directly supportable.
He's got 935 followers and about 20,000 views there
Rumble only takes half the cut YouTube does, But the amount of traffic on there is microscopic compared to YouTube. There's some room there to make money.
The vast majority of the content on there is a conservative echo chamber. I'd be a little worried about his ability to maintain journalistic integrity against big companies in that ecosystem. I'm also wondering what their ads look like
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Nobody is gonna watch a torrent tuber, the audience would get cut to 1/100th if even that.
Too many people rely on the aggregates and the algorithms.
It's funny, I remember watching The Scene from torrents (or maybe eDonkey2000/eMule?) 20 years ago. And it was relatively popular. Though I don't remember the last time I even had a BitTorrent client installed. If you're right, then we've failed ourselves. (And you may be right.)
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He's got 935 followers and about 20,000 views there
Rumble only takes half the cut YouTube does, But the amount of traffic on there is microscopic compared to YouTube. There's some room there to make money.
The vast majority of the content on there is a conservative echo chamber. I'd be a little worried about his ability to maintain journalistic integrity against big companies in that ecosystem. I'm also wondering what their ads look like
The vast majority of the content on there is a conservative echo chamber.
TIL. It's always rather amusing as someone outside of America that posts containing factual information get downvotes purely based on the perceived alignment of the subject on the zero-nuance American Political Spectrum. I block ads, so I wouldn't know.