Are Flipboard collections(?) AP groups?
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schrieb am 26. März 2025, 16:22 zuletzt editiert von
Hey @mike@flipboard.social, are Flipboard collections (or are they magazines? I forget the term!) federating out as
as:Group
? I'm wondering whether it would be possible for NodeBB to load them in as categories, and be able to browse them natively...I'm just not able to easily find them in the Flipboard UI right now, but I'm relatively new at using the app
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schrieb am 26. März 2025, 16:53 zuletzt editiert von
It looks like they are indeed AP groups: https://community.nodebb.org/category/gear-engadget@flipboard.com
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It looks like they are indeed AP groups: https://community.nodebb.org/category/gear-engadget@flipboard.com
schrieb am 26. März 2025, 17:20 zuletzt editiert von@AltCode aww, heck yeah!
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schrieb am 26. März 2025, 19:23 zuletzt editiert von(streams) recognises them as group actors in its directory AFAIR. So there has to be some truth in that.
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schrieb am 28. März 2025, 16:27 zuletzt editiert von
@julian
Magazines are represented as an #ActivityPub Group. The magazine actor boosts the original post from the profile into the group. -
@julian
Magazines are represented as an #ActivityPub Group. The magazine actor boosts the original post from the profile into the group.schrieb am 28. März 2025, 17:12 zuletzt editiert vonThanks for the confirmation @jsonculverhouse@flipboard.social, any chance we could have the post list the magazine as a recipient, so that a backreference is established?
See: https://community.nodebb.org/post/104013
@mike@flipboard.social mentioned you, but a typo got in the way
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schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von
@julian Something seems to be wrong. I've been following a few Flipboard magazines from NodeBB, but it seems like they are not correctly federating with the 4.3.0 beta.
Take a look at [Tech News by @theverge@flipboard.com](https://community.nodebb.org/category/tech-news-theverge@flipboard.com), I've been tracking this remote category for almost a month now, but here on NodeBB, it is still empty. Meanwhile, on Mastodon I see new posts daily.
For the record, this is what an activity created by the group actor looks like:
{ "@context":[ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", "https://w3id.org/security/v1", { "Hashtag":"as:Hashtag", "toot":"http://joinmastodon.org/ns#", "discoverable":"toot:discoverable", "indexable":"toot:indexable", "alsoKnownAs":{ "@id":"as:alsoKnownAs", "@type":"@id" } } ], "type":"Announce", "id":"https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565/activity/DpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA:a:43611565", "actor":"https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565", "published":"2025-04-22T09:51:50Z", "to":[ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public" ], "cc":[ "https://flipboard.com/users/theverge", "https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565/followers" ], "object":"https://flipboard.com/users/theverge/statuses/DpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA:a:43611565" }
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@julian Something seems to be wrong. I've been following a few Flipboard magazines from NodeBB, but it seems like they are not correctly federating with the 4.3.0 beta.
Take a look at [Tech News by @theverge@flipboard.com](https://community.nodebb.org/category/tech-news-theverge@flipboard.com), I've been tracking this remote category for almost a month now, but here on NodeBB, it is still empty. Meanwhile, on Mastodon I see new posts daily.
For the record, this is what an activity created by the group actor looks like:
{ "@context":[ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", "https://w3id.org/security/v1", { "Hashtag":"as:Hashtag", "toot":"http://joinmastodon.org/ns#", "discoverable":"toot:discoverable", "indexable":"toot:indexable", "alsoKnownAs":{ "@id":"as:alsoKnownAs", "@type":"@id" } } ], "type":"Announce", "id":"https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565/activity/DpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA:a:43611565", "actor":"https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565", "published":"2025-04-22T09:51:50Z", "to":[ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public" ], "cc":[ "https://flipboard.com/users/theverge", "https://flipboard.com/magazines/cPVtLWiDRgi0_eWFp_CJVA:m:43611565/followers" ], "object":"https://flipboard.com/users/theverge/statuses/DpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA:a:43611565" }
schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von@AltCode I think it's just Flipboard, right?
It might be because of the issue mentioned upthread where items shared by those groups don't have a back reference to the itself so it isn't slotted in it.
They might all just be uncategorized instead. Can you find those items when you search their url or id in the NodeBB search bar?
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schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von
@julian Yeah, seems to just affect Flipboard.
> Can you find those items when you search their url or id in the NodeBB search bar?
Yes, I'm still able to find them, e.g. https://community.nodebb.org/post/https%3A%2F%2Fflipboard.com%2Fusers%2Ftheverge%2Fstatuses%2FDpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA%3Aa%3A43611565
It's uncategorised, just as you said.
Slight tangent, no one seems to be following @theverge@flipboard.com here on the forum.
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@julian Yeah, seems to just affect Flipboard.
> Can you find those items when you search their url or id in the NodeBB search bar?
Yes, I'm still able to find them, e.g. https://community.nodebb.org/post/https%3A%2F%2Fflipboard.com%2Fusers%2Ftheverge%2Fstatuses%2FDpM9mVh1Qk2oScowFAN8DA%3Aa%3A43611565
It's uncategorised, just as you said.
Slight tangent, no one seems to be following @theverge@flipboard.com here on the forum.
schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von@AltCode that user and the category are (I think) separate actors. I'm not sure what the user does, shares its own posts, possibly... but like you said, nobody follows that user so I suppose that's why there's not much shown as shared either.
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schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von
> that user and the category are (I think) separate actors.
@julian Yes, they are indeed separate actors. To be clear, [Tech News by @theverge@flipboard.com](https://community.nodebb.org/category/tech-news-theverge@flipboard.com) is the group actor, while @theverge@flipboard.com is the person actor/remote user, sorry if I caused any confusion.
> I'm not sure what the user does, shares its own posts, possibly...
As I understand Flipboard, users there can create as many magazines as they want, and any post they create must always be in a magazine. It is not possible to create a post that does not belong to a magazine.
When federating this means that each magazine that a user creates is discoverable as
@-@flipboard.com
; any post that user creates will tag the magazine the post was made into, and the group actor representation of that magazine will boost/share/announce the post. -
> that user and the category are (I think) separate actors.
@julian Yes, they are indeed separate actors. To be clear, [Tech News by @theverge@flipboard.com](https://community.nodebb.org/category/tech-news-theverge@flipboard.com) is the group actor, while @theverge@flipboard.com is the person actor/remote user, sorry if I caused any confusion.
> I'm not sure what the user does, shares its own posts, possibly...
As I understand Flipboard, users there can create as many magazines as they want, and any post they create must always be in a magazine. It is not possible to create a post that does not belong to a magazine.
When federating this means that each magazine that a user creates is discoverable as
@-@flipboard.com
; any post that user creates will tag the magazine the post was made into, and the group actor representation of that magazine will boost/share/announce the post.schrieb vor 12 Tagen zuletzt editiert von@AltCode right, I think the issue here is that the posts themselves do not contain a backreference to the magazine they were posted to.
So for example, their latest post has addressed the following:
... "to": [ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public" ], "cc": [ "https://flipboard.com/users/theverge/followers" ], ...
... note that the magazine itself is not included, and so when NodeBB receives the object, it does not know to slot the topic into the appropriate category.
cc @jsonculverhouse@flipboard.social again about this one
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schrieb vor 11 Tagen zuletzt editiert von
So when the initial post come out do you expect the group to be in the "cc"?
Normally what happens is the magazine "boosts" the post so you will get the post and then the boost of the post from the group actor. I'd be glad to make a change if If i knew what that was.
In mastodon, the magazine will always be empty unless some explicitly follows the magazine.
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So when the initial post come out do you expect the group to be in the "cc"?
Normally what happens is the magazine "boosts" the post so you will get the post and then the boost of the post from the group actor. I'd be glad to make a change if If i knew what that was.
In mastodon, the magazine will always be empty unless some explicitly follows the magazine.
schrieb vor 11 Tagen zuletzt editiert von@jsonculverhouse@flipboard.social yes, that's right.
If a Flipboard post is organized within magazines, then including the magazine in the cc will allow recipient software to correctly slot the post with the magazine.
So not only would it fix the issue for NodeBB, it'd also fix it for Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, etc.