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  • With GenAI being used primarily as a cudgel against labor, especially organized labor, it's a pretty accurate take.

    AI is a tool.

    A tool that is being used wrong left and right because of hype.

    Where it works it works, and where it doesn't it will break away again.

    There are many issues with AI and how it gets it's data, etc. Yes.

    And how too many people treat it makes them to me sound like the monks who complained that the book printing press is killing the soul of books which have to be hand written.

    The way many here argua against AI is not logical bit emotional and it sucks

  • AI is a tool.

    A tool that is being used wrong left and right because of hype.

    Where it works it works, and where it doesn't it will break away again.

    There are many issues with AI and how it gets it's data, etc. Yes.

    And how too many people treat it makes them to me sound like the monks who complained that the book printing press is killing the soul of books which have to be hand written.

    The way many here argua against AI is not logical bit emotional and it sucks

    In a world not dominated by unfettered capitalism, sure. That's not the one that we live in however and this tool has both been built on stolen and unlicensed intellectual property as well as being used explicitly to harm people's livelihoods while replacing their work with objectively inferior plagiaristic amalgams.

    AI companies also refuse to obey the rules of the Internet and continually DDOS sites that request crawlers and scrapers not do so, necessitating creation of whole new types of software to defend against their malicious behavior.

    And on top of all that, they have substantially increased greenhouse gas emissions and are actively consuming potable water in a manner that makes Nestlé execs hard. Putting the planet's biosphere at greater risk and unnecessarily increasing water scarcity.

    Nah. Simping for AI companies is the irrational take. The value that they provide to humanity is, outside of some niche use cases, marginal at best and will likely never come close to making up for the harms that they are causing to humanity for a quick buck and to increase worker oppression.

  • In a world not dominated by unfettered capitalism, sure. That's not the one that we live in however and this tool has both been built on stolen and unlicensed intellectual property as well as being used explicitly to harm people's livelihoods while replacing their work with objectively inferior plagiaristic amalgams.

    AI companies also refuse to obey the rules of the Internet and continually DDOS sites that request crawlers and scrapers not do so, necessitating creation of whole new types of software to defend against their malicious behavior.

    And on top of all that, they have substantially increased greenhouse gas emissions and are actively consuming potable water in a manner that makes Nestlé execs hard. Putting the planet's biosphere at greater risk and unnecessarily increasing water scarcity.

    Nah. Simping for AI companies is the irrational take. The value that they provide to humanity is, outside of some niche use cases, marginal at best and will likely never come close to making up for the harms that they are causing to humanity for a quick buck and to increase worker oppression.

    Amazing, everything you just said is wrong! Not a single valid argument. But that's usual for luddites

  • Amazing, everything you just said is wrong! Not a single valid argument. But that's usual for luddites

    Feel like supporting this statement?

  • Feel like supporting this statement?

    Not really.You know you're repeating nonsense

  • Not really.You know you're repeating nonsense

    If you've any shed of evidence to disprove established fact, please share it. Otherwise, jog on, mate.

  • If you've any shed of evidence to disprove established fact, please share it. Otherwise, jog on, mate.

    you've not shared any established facts, you've regurgitated luddite bollocks, so I don't really think that's a valid response. But you know that, d0on't you?

  • you've not shared any established facts, you've regurgitated luddite bollocks, so I don't really think that's a valid response. But you know that, d0on't you?

    Prove it. I'm sure you can find some reputable sources to bank your claims.

    luddite

    Maybe you ought to also better understand that comparing one to people who stood up against exploitation isn't really an insult. Just like the Rednecks were those fighting for the working class when they were gunned down by rent-a-cops with machine guns at Blair Mountain.

  • Prove it. I'm sure you can find some reputable sources to bank your claims.

    luddite

    Maybe you ought to also better understand that comparing one to people who stood up against exploitation isn't really an insult. Just like the Rednecks were those fighting for the working class when they were gunned down by rent-a-cops with machine guns at Blair Mountain.

    What luddies were or were not is not really relevant to the fact that the term now means someone opposed to new technology for spurious reasons, which describes you perfectly

  • What luddies were or were not is not really relevant to the fact that the term now means someone opposed to new technology for spurious reasons, which describes you perfectly

    TIL: Accelerating global climate change, increasing depletion of available reserved of potable water through use of open-loop cooling, intentionally eroding the ability of people to support themselves by using their own works to compete with them without license or consent to do so, and passing all economic gains upwards, with no financial benefit realized by people doing the actual work is "spurious".

    Your claim is that "everything" that I previously stated was factually incorrect and have provided exactly nothing but ad hominem attacks to "prove" your point. So, are you going to backup your claims at all, or are you just approaching this in bad faith to troll or reinforce your pseudo-religious faith in LLMs (which will never be sentient nor save us from the problems that they are contributing to).

  • TIL: Accelerating global climate change, increasing depletion of available reserved of potable water through use of open-loop cooling, intentionally eroding the ability of people to support themselves by using their own works to compete with them without license or consent to do so, and passing all economic gains upwards, with no financial benefit realized by people doing the actual work is "spurious".

    Your claim is that "everything" that I previously stated was factually incorrect and have provided exactly nothing but ad hominem attacks to "prove" your point. So, are you going to backup your claims at all, or are you just approaching this in bad faith to troll or reinforce your pseudo-religious faith in LLMs (which will never be sentient nor save us from the problems that they are contributing to).

    Yeah those things are either not happening or your ire is directed at the wrong place because you want to blame the new thing for existing problems. Generative AI is a tool, nothing more. A knife can be used to cook dinner or stab people but you're not dead-set against knives because they're older than you and therefore fine

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    What noise are you talking about?
  • Jokes on them, I moved to CD and love it

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    Got 80GB of music on my phone, tried Spotify once, it was all live versions....
  • I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices.

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    Being able to upload to Google Play Music was such a great feature. Honestly though, maybe it's best that they killed it when they did. That way it can live on in memory as the example of what a music streaming service should be like... instead of becoming an enshittified zombie like spotify is today.
  • We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent

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    Intelligence is not understanding shit, it's the ability to for instance solve a problem, so a frigging calculator has a tiny degree of intelligence, but not enough for us to call it AI. I have to disagree that a calculator has intelligence. The calculator has the mathematical functions programmed into it, but it couldn't use those on its own. The intelligence in your example is that of the operator of the calculator and the programmer who designed the calculator's software. Can a good AI pass a basic exam? YES I agree with you that the ability to pass an exam isn't a great test for this situation. In my opinion, the major factor that would point to current state AI not being intelligent is that it doesn't know why a given answer is correct, beyond that it is statistically likely to be correct. Except we do the exact same thing! Based on prior experience (learning) we choose what we find to be the most likely answer. Again, I think this points to the idea that knowing why an answer is correct is important. A person can know something by rote, which is what current AI does, but that doesn't mean that person knows why that is the correct answer. The ability to extrapolate from existing knowledge and apply that to other situations that may not seem directly applicable is an important aspect of intelligence. As an example, image generation AI knows that a lot of the artwork that it has been fed contains watermarks or artist signatures, so it would often include things that look like those in the generated piece. It knew that it was statistically likely for that object to be there in a piece of art, but not why it was there, so it could not make a decision not to include them. Maybe that issue has been removed from the code of image generation AI by now, it has been a long time since I've messed around with that kind of tool, but even if it has been fixed, it is not because the AI knew it was wrong and self-corrected, it is because a programmer had to fix a bug in the code that the AI model had no awareness of.
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    "Sit down and stop being condescending." -- someone that doesn't lecture people
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    "it won't bother me, I'll be dead before then" -- boomers.
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    It is theorized by anthropologists that for most of humanity's existence (almost 200,000 years), humans operated on gift economies, without keeping any ledgers or IOUs, and also not bartering. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy Humanity mostly beat out (kind of, not really, humans mated/bred with neanderthals) neanderthals as a species in evolution because humans cooperated with each other, whereas neanderthals were more individualistic (also not a universal truth). Greed and profit seeking are a direct result of forming massive civilizations with defined leaders and the possibility to gain power over other people. There are ideas for new economic systems that will eliminate this hierarchal structure, namely anarchism and some other socialist idiologies like forcing all corporations to be worker-owned coops (not all of them). Here's a playlist that's a good introduction to anarchism: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8V0LbSKRwxqBt2Odrl_Yp_SlEVrv-w9G And here is an intro to a worker coop focused economic system and modern Marxism (the non-authoritarian type): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4
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    And also huge lols at saying porn is just nudity and sexuality