Current generation wifi 6E and 7 add 6Ghz which offers substantially more bandwidth / speed.

Wifi 7 also allows devices to use 2.4/5/6Ghz at the same time instead of just hard switching between them.

Would be a major setback since 6Ghz allows devices to easily hit Gigabit speeds wirelessly.

Yeah IoT devices don't need bandwith, they need range (at low powers) and those lower frequencies get them that. 6ghz wifi has pretty small range and is awful for IoT stuff.

This guy's full of shit. You can talk all you want on the HF bands, they're certainly not exclusively for contesting. You can do Morse code or digital modes too. The "most actual communication is illegal on ham bands" thing is wrong too, you can talk about pretty much anything you want as long as it's not "obscene or profane," according to the FCC.

I thought about getting a ham license so are you telling me there is really no need?

I thought about getting a ham license so are you telling me there is really no need?

A HAM license realistically is for two things:

1 the test teaches you major items you should know about how radio works
2 how to not fuck shit up for everyone else

For the bands allocated to HAM radio in the US, as long as you're not fucking shit up for everyone else the FCC doesn't really care. A good example of that and my personal favorite rule is the power transmission rule of "only enough power to complete the transmission". Functionally it's so vague that I doubt anyone would ever actually get their license suspended over it.

The group AFRL ARRL has a pretty restrictive "band plan" that I think is where the above comment's salt is coming from. A perception I have and have heard others talk about is the HAM community has a tendency to be borderline hostile to newcomers and are very gate-keepy, which ARRL in my experience embodies.

I have a license purely to play by the rules from a legal standpoint when I'm out in the rocky mountains hiking and camping with friends, makes communicating with different groups way easier

Edit: formatting, typoing ARRL

It's illegal to transmit music, it's illegal to transmit anything encrypted unless you're controlling a satellite, it's illegal to transmit anything for commercial purposes, and it's actually illegal to transmit anything on a regular basis that could reasonably be communicated some other way.

So am I able to goof around on the radio till I get my license or do I really need to have my license first?

A HAM license realistically is for two things:

1 the test teaches you major items you should know about how radio works
2 how to not fuck shit up for everyone else

For the bands allocated to HAM radio in the US, as long as you're not fucking shit up for everyone else the FCC doesn't really care. A good example of that and my personal favorite rule is the power transmission rule of "only enough power to complete the transmission". Functionally it's so vague that I doubt anyone would ever actually get their license suspended over it.

The group AFRL ARRL has a pretty restrictive "band plan" that I think is where the above comment's salt is coming from. A perception I have and have heard others talk about is the HAM community has a tendency to be borderline hostile to newcomers and are very gate-keepy, which ARRL in my experience embodies.

I have a license purely to play by the rules from a legal standpoint when I'm out in the rocky mountains hiking and camping with friends, makes communicating with different groups way easier

Edit: formatting, typoing ARRL

So am I able to goof around on the radio till I get my license or do I really need to have my license first?

It's illegal to transmit music

True, for obvious reasons

it's illegal to transmit anything encrypted unless you're controlling a satellite

True, it helps to ensure nothing illegal is going on and enforce keeping commercial interests out. It's a self regulating space, one of the only cases I know of that tends to work due to there being no monetary interests allowed. The point is to communicate information, not hide it.

it's illegal to transmit anything for commercial purposes.

True, the whole point is to keep commercial interests out. That's what "amateur" means.

illegal to transmit anything on a regular basis that could reasonably be communicated some other way.

False. This is for something like a non-profit wanting to use radios for their operations, they should be steered toward another service like gmrs, FRS, murs, etc. instead of amateur radio.

I mean, does anyone actually communicate on the ham bands? HF is for contesting and contesting only, 2 meters is for "checking in and out" on ragchew nets, 70cm is 2m again except half the range, 220 is hipster 2 meter, and I've never been given a reason to even think about 33cm and above. You're more likely to find discussion about Icom vs Yaesu's incompatible 2 meter digital things than high UHF.

Most actual communication is illegal on the ham bands one way or another so...I haven't renewed my license.

Do you mean ARRL?

I agree their bandplan is pretty restricty, but it's also not law. It's more for playing nice with each other. Keep high power up here so it doesn't wipe out the people playing with low power, digital here so they don't get overrun by voice, etc. You wouldn't have any idea you're stepping on someone sending Morse if you're on FM. So there's reason for it.

And yeah, with line of sight radios, nobody gives two shits 20 miles from civilization in the woods.

Next they are gonna take away amateur radio frequencies so it would be illegal to communicate outside of the internet.

Then its very easy to do censorship, just turn off power to ISPs and its information blackout.

Well whoever ends up buying that band is in for a load of shit because I and a lot of other people are NOT going to stop using 6GHz WiFi

Same thing with Meshtastic. Go ahead and see just how much you'll waste your money.

What do you mean by same thing with Meshtastic, are they trying to sell spectrum around 900mHz too?

I thought about getting a ham license so are you telling me there is really no need?

I call bs on the encryption part too. You just need to publicly post the key for your encryption and say you're not trying to hide what you're saying.

I haven't seen any regulations saying where you need to publicly post the key.

I say license up now and learn it how the shit works. Never know when some "pirate" stations may be needed.

This would need like a Canadian or Mexican to help provide the internet from across the border, because if they pull the Iran style blackout there will be zero internet for the entire country.