Unless users take action, Android will let Gemini access third-party apps
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Yes, for the amount of hate Google gets... Which I think it is fair to be critical of any product that compromises privacy... I recently tried helping my mom clean up her iPhone, and seriously like 100x worse. Almost everything you do on Apple demands you have another Apple device. One of the worst experiences I've ever dealt with.
Kinda sounds like you just don’t know how to use an iPhone.
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I installed GrapheneOS for the security and lack of Google. I didn't know it was a very nice stock Android without any crap. I love it.
Main things holding me back are the apps I already paid for on Google Play, and tap to pay.
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Main things holding me back are the apps I already paid for on Google Play, and tap to pay.
Tap to pay is not there. But you can install the Play Store and install all your paid applications, that's what I did.
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Tap to pay is not there. But you can install the Play Store and install all your paid applications, that's what I did.
I guess I'll need to get one of those little holsters that can hold a credit card.
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I guess I'll need to get one of those little holsters that can hold a credit card.
I'm not trying to convince you but I was paying for everything with my phone, it was the most important feature. After installing GrapheneOS, i got control back and piece of mind, and I dont miss tap to pay.
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Kinda sounds like you just don’t know how to use an iPhone.
Absolutely not the case.. I sense a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.
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Try Curve Pay. Just learned about it yesterday.
I added my credit card and it just works.
Couldn't be happier.Looks awesome, but unfortunately seems to only be for the UK and EU. I wish the US market would get something similar.
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This... Except for contactless payment.
I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
I don't care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.I had only 1 issue.
Contactless payment.
It's extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I'm sure they wave away the laws because of "financial security" or some other bullshit.
As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn't suffer exactly the same issues.
I looked into some "graphene contactless payment" type systems or workarounds, and I couldn't find anything that would fill the gap.This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.
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This... Except for contactless payment.
I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
I don't care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.I had only 1 issue.
Contactless payment.
It's extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I'm sure they wave away the laws because of "financial security" or some other bullshit.
As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn't suffer exactly the same issues.
I looked into some "graphene contactless payment" type systems or workarounds, and I couldn't find anything that would fill the gap.I was hesitating due to this as well, until I realized that my payments are something I want google to have data on least of all. So I got a debit card and turns out it is no inconvenience at all.
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Absolutely not the case.. I sense a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.
Because i think cleaning up an iPhone is easy?
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Laughs in Graphene
I believe /e/OS supports a broader range of devices, and it's also pretty great in my experience. The focus is on getting rid of google (replacing all services with MicroG and nextcloud integration) and blocking trackers while providing a smooth user experience, so it's security features are not as over the top as Graphene. It's still a huge freaking improvement over stock Android though, and I find it to be a joy to use.
On devices supported by the online installer it can be up an running in like 30 minutes, no technical skills required.
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Tap to pay is not there. But you can install the Play Store and install all your paid applications, that's what I did.
You can sandbox play store apps right?
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This... Except for contactless payment.
I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
I don't care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.I had only 1 issue.
Contactless payment.
It's extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I'm sure they wave away the laws because of "financial security" or some other bullshit.
As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn't suffer exactly the same issues.
I looked into some "graphene contactless payment" type systems or workarounds, and I couldn't find anything that would fill the gap.I hear so many people praise paying with their phones, and there I am, so happy that I can leave my phone at home when shopping. Each to their own I guess.
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This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.
Yup, true.
But contactless via a phone can have no limit.
Adding a debit card to phone case means the upper limit is £100. Which is actually fine, and is the limit I have normally set for phone contactless. But I can instantly remove that limit via my banking app.And the phone needs to be unlocked to make a payment.
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Anyone know if this is happening outside the US and if it is whether it's happening inside the EU?
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I just removed gemini from my phone.
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Remember when iPhone was the bad guy amongst these kids? But I guess as long as it has more options, surely it’s better!
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Try Curve Pay. Just learned about it yesterday.
I added my credit card and it just works.
Couldn't be happier.I'm always nervous about fintech companies. Maybe it's time to get over that and give curve pay a spin.
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My experience with Gemini:
Hey Google, set a timer for 5 minutes.
Gemini: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
WTF is the point of it then?
Imagine taking away the only useful feature of a voice assistant
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You can sandbox play store apps right?
Everything is sandboxed but I don't have all the details. You don't actively turn any sandbox on or off, it's always there IIRC.
