Peak Energy just shipped the US's first grid-scale sodium-ion battery
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/528970
I work for a controller OEM that builds the brains for managing these systems. It’s cutting edge stuff.
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Yeah, the brine is where various useful ions can be further extracted from. https://news.mit.edu/2019/brine-desalianation-waste-sodium-hydroxide-0213
It's both amazing and hilarious that our sodium battery production is similar to modded Minecraft logic.
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I work for a controller OEM that builds the brains for managing these systems. It’s cutting edge stuff.
The part that controls/balances the discharge profiles, right? Because sodium batteries have a more non-linear discharge pattern.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/528970
But why US? Can't store fracking oil in there.
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But why US? Can't store fracking oil in there.
Finally something the EU can invest those 600 billion in. Or buy it, like lots of EU startups were by FAANG companies years ago. Tramp says it's dead tech, so it's ok.
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Finally something the EU can invest those 600 billion in. Or buy it, like lots of EU startups were by FAANG companies years ago. Tramp says it's dead tech, so it's ok.
I honestly dont care who develops these kind of technologies, because it will spread.
The impact of these products are too important.
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That much salt is not going to be good for blood pressure.
Cow lick with kick
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And very destructive for the local environment
Not sure why you're getting down voted, as you're sadly correct here
Still better then many alternatives, but it's not as environmental friendly as it's advertised
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/528970
I wonder which is saltier, oil companies or the batteries.
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You're not supposed to eat the electricity
First off, you're not my mother.
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Middle east would like a word with you.
Middle-East involves plenty of mountainous areas, and the reason many of those are arid is because water, ahem, flows down.
Also in a flat dry desert one can replace pumping water up with raising heavy things up. I think. More wear though.
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The part that controls/balances the discharge profiles, right? Because sodium batteries have a more non-linear discharge pattern.
It is what controls when to inject back up power to shave peak power, the brains to know when to use the grid when it costs the least and then it knows when to balance the solar with the back up to shave peak power.
Check us out at Ampra Grid. It’s not for residential use. Mainly for massive industrial use. Msrp of about 19,400$.
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It is what controls when to inject back up power to shave peak power, the brains to know when to use the grid when it costs the least and then it knows when to balance the solar with the back up to shave peak power.
Check us out at Ampra Grid. It’s not for residential use. Mainly for massive industrial use. Msrp of about 19,400$.
That the controller price or does it include the battery as well? What's installation look like?
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This is big! Grid scale Sodium Ion battery technology is (on paper) the best candidate for cheap large scale electricity storage. The fact that this company is working on 9 pilot deployments mean that this will likely produce the real world results that the paper exercises promise.
There are SO MANY advantages of Sodium Ion battery tech for grid storage over everything else we've used so far (nearly all Lithium based).
Sodium Ion batteries:
- don't have as intense thermal management needs Lithium chemistries
- don't have the massive negative environmental impact for their source materials (because its a part of regular old table/sea salt)
- doesn't have the massive swings in capacity when operated in extreme hot or cold temperatures. Sodium Ion doesn't care.
The only downsides to Sodium Ion is that the batteries are physically larger for the same amount of energy stored (which isn't a problem for stationary storage), and the charging/discharging curves are not as linear as other chemistries (which again, isn't an issue because these are purpose built applications where the curves can easily be managed by battery management systems).
What about the environmental impact of degraded sodium ion batteries?
I'm not going to take sodium mining into account, as there are many ways that it can be extracted, with probably minimal impact, like salt evaporation ponds. I assume it's less destructive than building a hydro dam.
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It's both amazing and hilarious that our sodium battery production is similar to modded Minecraft logic.
Well, not too surprising, modded Minecraft chemistry is modeled after real life after all!
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Well, not too surprising, modded Minecraft chemistry is modeled after real life after all!
Quite forward thinking of the Mekanism devs, then.
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That the controller price or does it include the battery as well? What's installation look like?
Just the controller. We don’t supply or fabricate anything power wise. We just have the connector that does the brains of the power management. It talks through cellular.
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Middle-East involves plenty of mountainous areas, and the reason many of those are arid is because water, ahem, flows down.
Also in a flat dry desert one can replace pumping water up with raising heavy things up. I think. More wear though.
Not what I was replying to my dude.
