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What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like

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  • We know what the internet would have been without Google and other corporations closing it down because some of us lived it.

    It was mostly decentralised niche forums that you had to know the links for, and you'd receive random emails telling you to visit this or that new site. People would also share links around school.

    Sure, there was a chance you'd get Chlamydia if you opened the wrong link, but it was exciting and overall the experience was wholesome.

    I had to advertise my first website on paper!

  • Welcome to the future, where asking a question costs $4.99 and you'll never be able to find out if the answer is right or not.

    written before reading the article; it get the topic from another, more interesting and less imaginary, angle

    Do we explore it post-Google or post-anything that would take its place?

    Because those are two very different scenarios. There are plenty of Big Tech corps that are willing to take Google's place.

    If we actually mean no one does search with targeted advertising and stuff, my bets are on more indie sites popping up, and Fediverse getting stronger as well.

    We'll have more link indices, and more relevant search results hosted on different corners of the Internet.

    On the negative: unless open-source projects step up their game, usability and quality of web interfaces will suffer dramatically. And without truly massive Fediverse or at least decent webrings, finding basic information and connecting to others might actually get harder.

  • Welcome to the future, where asking a question costs $4.99 and you'll never be able to find out if the answer is right or not.

    just dont use google? I havent used google search for years now and there hasnt been single time where i would have needed to use google search even once. Though unfortunately i'm still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.

  • just dont use google? I havent used google search for years now and there hasnt been single time where i would have needed to use google search even once. Though unfortunately i'm still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.

    Though unfortunately i’m still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.

    I self-host my e-mails, but that probably isn't a viable solution for just everyone.

  • Though unfortunately i’m still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.

    I self-host my e-mails, but that probably isn't a viable solution for just everyone.

    i just want a service that i dont have to hassle with, so this would definitely not be good for me 😅
    Also i dont think many places even accept self hosted email as "real", at least some places dont accept alias addresses.

    its so annoying when any decent alternative costs money, which isnt very good thing for my "official" email which i need for important things. Dont want to end up in situation where i get locked out of it because i didnt or couldnt pay for some reason. Though i constantly have to slightly fear that with google too since they can lock anyone's account for any reason they see fit.

  • Though unfortunately i’m still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.

    I self-host my e-mails, but that probably isn't a viable solution for just everyone.

    Gmail is way more reliable than anything I could self-host. It's a huge pile of unsorted junk that is only usable with search.

  • Good call, I should have worded that better. While the government and scientists were instrumental in creating the foundation for the internet, I was thinking more along the lines of the early PC era. When the internet was more or less a tool for openly sharing and discussing information as well as ideas.

    But a lot of tech stems from governmental need and/or government funding. I mean, the modern refrigerator was a result of NASA problem solving for the environmental conditions found in space! GPS, LASIK, MRI's, LED's, barcodes, closed captioning, and the human genome project were all also thanks to government research too!

  • Good call, I should have worded that better. While the government and scientists were instrumental in creating the foundation for the internet, I was thinking more along the lines of the early PC era. When the internet was more or less a tool for openly sharing and discussing information as well as ideas.

    But a lot of tech stems from governmental need and/or government funding. I mean, the modern refrigerator was a result of NASA problem solving for the environmental conditions found in space! GPS, LASIK, MRI's, LED's, barcodes, closed captioning, and the human genome project were all also thanks to government research too!

    Thanks for taking my trolling in good stride. I actually loved the internet of 20 years ago. It was totally different from today, it's actually a shame a lot of the way it was is gone forever. I vividly remember frequenting a few blogs, just slow chatting in the comments, making your own response images, hosting your own stuff like these images, sound clips and whatever else. Most ISP's would give you some server space to host your own static html pages, and lot's of people used this. The blogs would host photoshop contests, link to stuff they liked, reported on news or music or whatever their niche. The blogs I visited are mostly still around today, but they just don't draw the engagement anymore.

  • It's yours, no issues trusting a public instance with your searches. Pages full of settings to tweak as you like. Less problems with an algorithm 'helping' you. It averages searches over multiple search engines that you choose, you can set up your own (or a curated) block list of crappy AI slop sites, don't like fandom.com or something, gone. Manage your own bangs, e.g. !aa for annas-archive. Pipe it through a VPN with gluetun for better isolation. If you have your head around docker already it's more like half an hour to set up, so why not?

    Can hook it up to perplexica and a local LLM for a fully local AI search that you define, use it as a MCP server, do deep research with it...

    That is awesome. A little beyond me but I've played in docker a bit. Is a VPN needed to keep your ip from being exposed ?

    Is just using an existing searxng instance just less secure then?

  • Welcome to the future, where asking a question costs $4.99 and you'll never be able to find out if the answer is right or not.

    Lmao there's whole books about this. One is Life After Google, published 10 (?) years ago and it said blockchain would rule the world 🙂 The subtitle is literally "The Fall Of Big Data And The Rise Of The Blockchain Economy"

  • That is awesome. A little beyond me but I've played in docker a bit. Is a VPN needed to keep your ip from being exposed ?

    Is just using an existing searxng instance just less secure then?

    Is a VPN needed to keep your ip from being exposed ?

    No more so than using any search engine directly, it's a nice to have. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough.

    Is just using an existing searxng instance just less secure then?

    By the time you've investigated it, you could have stood up your own instance...

  • Thanks for taking my trolling in good stride. I actually loved the internet of 20 years ago. It was totally different from today, it's actually a shame a lot of the way it was is gone forever. I vividly remember frequenting a few blogs, just slow chatting in the comments, making your own response images, hosting your own stuff like these images, sound clips and whatever else. Most ISP's would give you some server space to host your own static html pages, and lot's of people used this. The blogs would host photoshop contests, link to stuff they liked, reported on news or music or whatever their niche. The blogs I visited are mostly still around today, but they just don't draw the engagement anymore.

    I'm just sad I'm too young to have ever seen that old internet, and what it was like...

    Makes me more determined to try and steer the current internet back in that direction though.

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    This is where the magic of near meaningless corpo-babble comes in. The layoffs are part of a plan to aspirationally acheive the goal of $10b revenue by EoY 2025. What they are actually doing is a significant restructuring of the company, refocusing by outside hiring some amount of new people to lead or be a part of departments or positions that haven't existed before, or are being refocused to other priorities... ... But this process also involves laying off 500 of the 'least productive' or 'least mission critical' employees. So, technically, they can, and are, arguing that their new organizational paradigm will be so succesful that it actually will result in increased revenue, not just lower expenses. Generally corpos call this something like 'right-sizing' or 'refocusing' or something like that. ... But of course... anyone with any actual experience with working at a place that does this... will tell you roughly this is what happens: Turns out all those 'grunts' you let go of, well they actually do a lot more work in a bunch of weird, esoteric, bandaid solutions to keep everything going, than upper management was aware of... because middle management doesn't acknowledge or often even understand that that work was being done, because they are generally self-aggrandizing narcissist petty tyrants who spend more time in meetings fluffing themselves up than actually doing any useful management. Then, also, you are now bringing on new, outside people who look great on paper, to lead new or modified apartments... but they of course also do not have any institutional knowledge, as they are new. So now, you have a whole bunch of undocumented work that was being done, processes which were being followed... which is no longer being done, which is not documented.... and the new guys, even if they have the best intentions, now have to spend a quarter or two or three figuring out just exactly how much pre-existing middle management has been bullshitting about, figuring out just how much things do not actually function as they ssid it did... So now your efficiency improving restructuring is actually a chaotic mess. ... Now, this 'right sizing' is not always apocalyptically extremely bad, but it is also essentially never totally free from hiccups... and it increases stress, workload, and tensions between basically everyone at the company, to some extent. Here's Forbes explanation of this phenomenon, if you prefer an explanation of right sizing in corpospeak: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/rightsizing/