A mass protest, in and of itself, is not "nothing".

It is. What happened on June 14th was technically a mass protest, but it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective. In essence, that wasn't a protest; it was a parade. They can, in theory, be used as a launching point for something more effective, but on their own? Yeah, nothing.

You haven't noticed the National Guard and Marines being deployed there?

Okay and? They were deployed because ICE wasn't able to do their jobs, and even now they're suffering widespread harassment and obstruction. Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn't the flex you think it is.

Uh, well someone's doing it

No. There probably isn't more violence anywhere else yet though.

So just use one too and blend in. Put on a stupid Trump or racist hat, and if you are not white, put on gloves. Then surround them.

it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective

Oh please, do go on, what makes a protest effective? Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors' property?

Okay and?

Okay and...that's bad?

Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn't the flex you think it is.

Getting the marines and national guard deployed on you isn't the flex you think it is.

the government should always identify itself to the people

the people should, by default, not be identified by the government

the power imbalance is important: the government is a large and powerful entity which is meant to serve the people without prejudice. people are individually small, and only gain their power from being a large group. the government is given power by the people in order for it to perform tasks beneficial to all

Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors' property?

No, real obstruction of fascist activity. And, you know, turning out on a weekday. Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt. That is simply not what happens when you parade for two hours on a Saturday.

I heard a bit on NPR over the weekend talking about copaganda. Turns out body cams are beneficial to cops, because they can take that footage and selectively edit and release it to push a certain narrative.

If you've ever seen a clip on social media, it often starts a few seconds before the cop hits someone, rarely showing the full sequence of events that led up to that point.

And if they can't edit the footage to make them look good? "Oops, we didn't retrieve that footage in time so it was overwritten."

No. Most cameras have filters to cut non-visible light.

And any EM that passes through a mask is probably going to pass through flesh too. And any EM that's transmitted and not reflected means it can't be imaged by a sensor.

Very thin fabric, like a thin white T-shirt, can be transparent to IR in bright sunlight. But that's a fairly rare case.

Why would a librarians info need to be public? Does America require a public database of public servants?

Please post the entirety of your online history.

Surely there's no reason to hide.

Whether what you've done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn't care.

What is done in a free society is punished by small men with anger control issues.

What you may find reasonable to say in a free society, could, under a government opposed to free expression, land you in el Segundo - without your wallet.

The gestapo hide their faces because they know what they do is wrong, and to hide from justice.

People who protest or simply appreciate privacy do so because they understand the potential for retribution and being disappeared.

Please post the entirety of your online history. Surely there's no reason to hide.

...we're talking about hiding though

Whether what you've done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn't care.

That goes both ways. That was my entire point.

No, real obstruction of fascist activity.

You're using a bunch of general language. Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt.

Good luck not getting fired.

From the article https://icespy.org/

I think that's something they have, yeah. It's kind of unheard of to me. I can only imagine public servants like librarians or library assistants getting stalked, harassed, etc because their info is publicly available for anyone to access.

It's a public servants thing--the public wants to know what they're paying for, so public servant salary records are public.

Various websites compile this information from the various state and federal sources. It's wicked easy to find information on, say, every public servant with the title "librarian" in Fake County, Kentucky.

Knowing their full name, you can look up their home ownership records in the county real estate or tax databases and ta-da, you know where they live. You also know if they work part-time at a different public library, so that's convenient for stalking purposes.

Edit: not that I think it's a good thing. It's creepy as all get out. If we have to post salaries, I'd much rather they be anonymized like on Glassdoor.

Edit2: and these lists do get used for political ickiness. There's an anti-union group that mails out helpful tips on how to save money--leave your union. They even provide a "I want to leave" postcard addressed to your union leadership for you to sign, pre-filled-in with your info.

Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

I can't find the article now, but I read one yesterday about LA protesters doing things like blocking ICE vehicles, towing them away and making noise outside their hotels so they can't sleep. They're actually confronting ICE and LAPD, draining away their energy and reducing the pace of arrests. Here's an example. Do this on a national scale and Trump's little Gestapo won't stand a chance.

Good luck not getting fired.

They can't fire everyone, but more importantly look up the events of Euromaidan, the various Arab spring revolutions and the recent Serbian (or was it Slovakian?) protests. It's impossible to overthrow authoritarianism without personal risk; that's just not how that works. You're free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can't claim that you're resisting, because you're not; it's either or.

Commercial versions of these systems exist in the UK.

Shopper put on facial ID watchlist after dispute over 39p of paracetamol​ at Home Bargains

Exclusive: London woman who only found out she was on list after trying to return to store launches ICO complaint

the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

The Gdpr makes these things harder to do, but not automatically illegal.

Surely you have noticed that there is a lot of criticism of the GDPR and EU tech regulation.

Yeah, and some of it is even true.

I took a selfie and it told me I was an ice agent.... Wtf I'm such a piece of shit

I know that because I do a lot of street photography and there is no law in the UK forbidding photography of people in public spaces, it’s quite easy for you to Google this but I can’t provide you with a law condoning it as that’s not how it works.

Again show me in GDPR where it expressly forbids marching a face to a public dataset.