Lemmy as a whole is more seems to attract neo-Luddites but I'm still surprised to see someone so against transhumanism in c/technology.

Lemmy as a whole is more seems to attract neo-Luddites but I'm still surprised to see someone so against transhumanism in c/technology.

I'm not necessarily supportive of Thiel - he does some things that I oppose, and also some things that I think are silly. He's not a very likeable man overall. I'm supportive of transhumanism. The substance of this article is merely that:

Peter Thiel hesitated when asked if he “would prefer the human race to endure.”

The article doesn't even say what his reply ultimately was, but the implication is that even considering that a transhuman future would be better is somehow horrifying, and that's the implication I'm surprised to see supported here.

The question was posed in a safe environment. Douthat, one of the Times’ most reliable conservatives, offered Thiel sufficient context to escape with an easy answer. Douthat prefaced his question by saying: “a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a mechanism for transhumanism—for transcendence of our mortal flesh—and either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine.” He was referencing the movement to radically enhance and evolve humans to achieve immortality. Transhumanist adherents advocate for a range of innovations, from genetic biohacking to uploading our consciousness to a computer to merge with A.I., freezing ourselves through cryonics, and robotically adapting our bodies through expansive bionics that reach the level of cyborgs.

Douthat clearly thought that Thiel would choose human over machine. But Thiel responded with a long hesitation. In a video of the exchange, Douthat—to his credit—is clearly taken aback.

Thiel has long been cagey and ambiguous about his beliefs—likely a strategic play for his career as an investor—but he has clearly been fascinated with transhumanism for a long time. This recent interview, though, seems more direct and dangerous. Thiel seems unwilling to answer the question: Does he eventually want to be a literal, honest-to-god brain in a jar wired to a Macbook Pro?

Yes... That's been the plan the whole fucking time. I thought we all knew this already?

There is just something about watching the slow, but inevitable collapse of the U.S. and eventually humanity as we know it, due to the very deliberate actions of one billionaire who was born in another country and who has been playing both sides against each other, while all other silicon valley billionaires have just accepted this as inevitable and are holding brainstorming sessions about what they can do following the collapse, rather than just stopping the guy who is orchestrating the whole thing.

Transhumanism is our inevitable fate, but this was all kicked off by a movement thar coerced Americans into believing they had to organize against secular humanism before things got anymore out of hand.

Thank God (can I still say God or do I have to say Thank Thiel?) we didn't let that happen.

I hope we're alone in the Universe.

Lemmy as a whole is more seems to attract neo-Luddites but I'm still surprised to see someone so against transhumanism in c/technology.

This breed of trans humanists are simple garbage because they are not about trans humanism - they are about staying oligarchs forever.

Let them upload themselves into an iridium and unobtainum machine with nuclear fusion batteries and then we drop it into the Mariana Trench and let them watch the spectacle from inside.

The question was posed in a safe environment. Douthat, one of the Times’ most reliable conservatives, offered Thiel sufficient context to escape with an easy answer. Douthat prefaced his question by saying: “a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a mechanism for transhumanism—for transcendence of our mortal flesh—and either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine.” He was referencing the movement to radically enhance and evolve humans to achieve immortality. Transhumanist adherents advocate for a range of innovations, from genetic biohacking to uploading our consciousness to a computer to merge with A.I., freezing ourselves through cryonics, and robotically adapting our bodies through expansive bionics that reach the level of cyborgs.

Douthat clearly thought that Thiel would choose human over machine. But Thiel responded with a long hesitation. In a video of the exchange, Douthat—to his credit—is clearly taken aback.

Thiel has long been cagey and ambiguous about his beliefs—likely a strategic play for his career as an investor—but he has clearly been fascinated with transhumanism for a long time. This recent interview, though, seems more direct and dangerous. Thiel seems unwilling to answer the question: Does he eventually want to be a literal, honest-to-god brain in a jar wired to a Macbook Pro?

Yes... That's been the plan the whole fucking time. I thought we all knew this already?

There is just something about watching the slow, but inevitable collapse of the U.S. and eventually humanity as we know it, due to the very deliberate actions of one billionaire who was born in another country and who has been playing both sides against each other, while all other silicon valley billionaires have just accepted this as inevitable and are holding brainstorming sessions about what they can do following the collapse, rather than just stopping the guy who is orchestrating the whole thing.

Transhumanism is our inevitable fate, but this was all kicked off by a movement thar coerced Americans into believing they had to organize against secular humanism before things got anymore out of hand.

Thank God (can I still say God or do I have to say Thank Thiel?) we didn't let that happen.

The question was posed in a safe environment. Douthat, one of the Times’ most reliable conservatives, offered Thiel sufficient context to escape with an easy answer. Douthat prefaced his question by saying: “a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a mechanism for transhumanism—for transcendence of our mortal flesh—and either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine.” He was referencing the movement to radically enhance and evolve humans to achieve immortality. Transhumanist adherents advocate for a range of innovations, from genetic biohacking to uploading our consciousness to a computer to merge with A.I., freezing ourselves through cryonics, and robotically adapting our bodies through expansive bionics that reach the level of cyborgs.

Douthat clearly thought that Thiel would choose human over machine. But Thiel responded with a long hesitation. In a video of the exchange, Douthat—to his credit—is clearly taken aback.

Thiel has long been cagey and ambiguous about his beliefs—likely a strategic play for his career as an investor—but he has clearly been fascinated with transhumanism for a long time. This recent interview, though, seems more direct and dangerous. Thiel seems unwilling to answer the question: Does he eventually want to be a literal, honest-to-god brain in a jar wired to a Macbook Pro?

Yes... That's been the plan the whole fucking time. I thought we all knew this already?

There is just something about watching the slow, but inevitable collapse of the U.S. and eventually humanity as we know it, due to the very deliberate actions of one billionaire who was born in another country and who has been playing both sides against each other, while all other silicon valley billionaires have just accepted this as inevitable and are holding brainstorming sessions about what they can do following the collapse, rather than just stopping the guy who is orchestrating the whole thing.

Transhumanism is our inevitable fate, but this was all kicked off by a movement thar coerced Americans into believing they had to organize against secular humanism before things got anymore out of hand.

Thank God (can I still say God or do I have to say Thank Thiel?) we didn't let that happen.

I'm not necessarily supportive of Thiel - he does some things that I oppose, and also some things that I think are silly. He's not a very likeable man overall. I'm supportive of transhumanism. The substance of this article is merely that:

Peter Thiel hesitated when asked if he “would prefer the human race to endure.”

The article doesn't even say what his reply ultimately was, but the implication is that even considering that a transhuman future would be better is somehow horrifying, and that's the implication I'm surprised to see supported here.

Yeah totally, now is not the time to bring this up. Just like Trump saying "you'll never need to vote again." Or that Nazi salute that Musk did that wasn't really a Nazi salute when he did it, but now we all can acknowledge it was.

Once our Lord and Savior Peter Thiel has ascended after sacrificing us all for our mortal sins, then we can acknowledge this.

Yeah totally, now is not the time to bring this up. Just like Trump saying "you'll never need to vote again." Or that Nazi salute that Musk did that wasn't really a Nazi salute when he did it, but now we all can acknowledge it was.

Once our Lord and Savior Peter Thiel has ascended after sacrificing us all for our mortal sins, then we can acknowledge this.

I’m for transhumanism and potentially some kind of ai governance but thiel (and the rest of the slime in the tech industry) are not the people to bring it to us. Everything they touch is tainted by greed and our current direction with ai is a lobotomized tumorous speech center.

Dont be a dick, people arent simping for Thiel just because they think the article you posted is over interpreting a single pause.

Dont be a dick, people arent simping for Thiel just because they think the article you posted is over interpreting a single pause.

Immortality is the end of human evolution. Imagine humans, as we currently are, never changing from our impulsive and selfish behavior. That's a fucking nightmare.

There's a difference between the want for convergence with tech for all, if they want

Vs.

We're going to transfer your consciousness into a virtual world and use you for biofuel while we, the powerful enjoy the wealth of your sacrifice.

How Peter Thiel’s network of right-wing techies is infiltrating Donald Trump’s White House - Lemmy.ca

Summary Peter Thiel, a prominent figure in Silicon Valley, is seeing his network of associates secure positions within Donald Trump’s upcoming administration. This includes individuals like JD Vance, David Sacks, Jim O’Neill, and Elon Musk, all connected through Thiel’s various ventures and networks. While Thiel has distanced himself from direct political donations, his influence and investments in companies with government ties suggest potential benefits from this administration.

(lemmy.ca)

It’s called the dark enlightenment.

This article warns from way back in 2017 https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles

They also want to use you for biofuel.

No, I’m not fucking kidding. These people are pure evil

“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass. However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.”

Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas

Yes, Peter Thiel was the senator’s benefactor. But they’re both inspired by an obscure software developer who has some truly frightening thoughts about reordering society.

The New Republic (newrepublic.com)

Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets

As MAGA World Bets on J.D. Vance and Blake Masters, a new breed of conservatism is gaining ground, and getting more radical.

Vanity Fair (www.vanityfair.com)

Curtis Yarvin - Wikipedia

(en.m.wikipedia.org)

Its endlessly fascinating to me how throughout all of human history the ruling class has been intent on achieving immortality. The first story we know of is about a despotic ruler scouring the world for the key to immortality. Many emporers of China were driven to madness by this search.

Simping is the least we can do for our Lord and savior, who has never done anything else to indicate his ultimate goal in life is to achieve immortality no matter the cost, other than hesitate when asked directly during this specific interview if he was rooting for survival of humanity.

Perspective: A future for me and not for thee — the hubris of transhumanism (2023)

If we simp our hardest we might have the privilege of being frozen and placed in his space coffin with him in order to serve him into the next life, or chosen to be ground up in order to serve as his personal biofuel as he travels through space.

It's like that old saying, shoot simp for the
Even if you miss, you'll still land among the

You're the author of this, aren't you? Here you are completely misreading every response to you. Holy shit, take a breath.