Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
if the strategy is to tell children to stop circumventing the rules with a workaround, couldn’t the original messaging just have been “talk to your children about not watching porn”
it’s so obvious the identification laws have nothing to do with protecting children from porn and everything to do with Big Brother surveillance
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
It's funny how all the bigwigs are suddenly interested in "child safety" now that ol Eppie is gone, funny that. Also at least kids are learning how stick it to those old sacks for trying to take away their freedom.
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
They could require age verification or even special licensing to use any sort of internet server architecture. That's what I would do if that was my goal.
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
FYI, with Mullvad VPN set to UK, sites that require age verification:
Sites tha do NOT require age verification:
- hqporner.com
- xhamster.com
- youjizz.com
- alohatube.com
- qqqporn.com
- xnxx.com
- xcafe.com
- helloporn.co
- go.porn
- cartoonporn.pro
And xvideos.com is a bit special since it shows you the thumbnails of porn videos but won't let you play them.
But we need to stop VPNs! Think of the whole two children that have VPNs! What if instead of just going to the half of the sites that don't verify age, they figure out how to use a VPN?! Oh the humanity!
Yeah, UK wants to de-anonymize VPN users as the next step in their attack on free speech. It is laughable to think this is about anything else.
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
Don't give them ideas!
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What a VM? What's a server OS? How do I log in? What the fuck does sudo apt mean? What is docker? Now I'm editing files? A peer? What's wireguard?
So many of you are disconnected from regular people because you're chronically online.
You say this as if people are utterly incapable of learning.
Anyone can learn anything of they’re given a good enough reason to want to learn.
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Eh, I disagree. Slavery being banned is obviously a good thing, but that's because it's immoral to own someone else, so it's essentially just kidnapping. Gambling, on the other hand, shouldn't be banned for the simple reason that consenting adults should be able to do it if they choose.
Basically, I believe there are two types of rights:
- negative rights - restricts others from preventing individuals from doing things to you (e.g. freedom from slavery, freedom to gamble, etc)
- positive rights - forces others to provide goods or services to you (e.g. free healthcare, right to counsel, etc)
I believe nobody should gamble because it's a poor financial decision and very addictive (and I choose to avoid gambling), but I also believe you should be allowed to gamble, and the government should ensure that companies that provide gambling services do so fairly (i.e. advertisements about win-rates and whatnot are accurate).
So yes, if gambling wasn't allowed, people w/ addictions would be better off, but those who aren't at risk of gambling addiction would be harmed due to restrictions on their freedom. So the question is, do we want government to protect us from ourselves, or merely provide a safety net for when we screw up? I'm absolutely in the latter camp, and I think we should use taxes to fund recovery programs for addictive behaviors in lieu of banning them. In general, I think a tax is way more rights-respecting than a ban.
Gambling between two people or very small groups is mostly ok and something humans have done since cave times.
Now, because real life has profit seeking corporations in control of gambling that know and abuse all psychological tricks available to maximize profits, I don't think allowing them to exist is good for anyone except the owners. Casinos are also perfect for money laundering, so that's another reason to not allow them to function, although with the internet they can just pick and choose a country to exist in.
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
Streisand effect: the BBC is telling every last kid that VPN is exactly the way to circumvent the prohibition.
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Ok one question: Why do we have to protect children from porn if they've already gotten exposed to it?
Why do we have to protect children from porn if they’ve already gotten exposed to it?
... did you know that in maternity wards, more children are born every year?
I hate what is fucking going on, but you know, logic.
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To add to it: Why do we need to protect children that arent ours from things their parents are supposed to protect them from?
Weird way to shift job tasks around.
It's praying on the tech illiteracy of idiots. There are several pieces of software that can be used to locally censor the internet for minors, and they're very affordable, and I bet free versions (open source?) probably also exist.
When I was a wee lad, there were "internet safety guides" being shown to kids and parents including :
- Don't post personal information online
- Do not use your real name on the internet
- Do not give images of your ID to anyone online
But then, facebook asked for people's fucking IDs and real names, and people just fucking forked it over. GOOD JOB DICKHEADS.
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If you want to actually play devil's advocate, you gotta give an argument. Otherwise, you're just being contrarian.
Would you rather your teenage son :
- Break his fucking head intruding on some poor adult woman's privacy to see a naked woman
- See hardcore violent BDSM from questionable sources as his example of what sex is meant to be like
- Access tame softcore porn or naked ladies to fulfill his natural curioscity/blossoming adolescence
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This has nothing to do with porn or protecting children. It's a backdoor way to attach names and faces to VPN usage so movie and music studios can sue specific people for torrenting. They failed in bringing lawsuits previously because they couldn't pin point the piracy to specific individuals. I would bet money that the ministers leading this charge have ties to groups in the movie and music industry. The UK will be the testbed before the full rollout in the EU and then worldwide.
Even with an association of an identity to a VPN provider, there is no one-to-one correspondence between a person and an IP address.
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Actually it was pushed by some AI corp, to sell AI for verification purposes, alongside other bad faith actors.
Or by some other fly-by-night identity-verifcation company.
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
Docker's an unnecessary extra step. Just install wireguard server on the VM.
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What a VM? What's a server OS? How do I log in? What the fuck does sudo apt mean? What is docker? Now I'm editing files? A peer? What's wireguard?
So many of you are disconnected from regular people because you're chronically online.
There are instructions that are completely "type this" monkey see, monkey do. The majority of people who cannot follow such instructions should be wards of the state.
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
How about parent your children?
What about the crappy late night TV channels with the women waving a cordless house phone like it's 1996?
I'm perfectly able to watch porn because I'm 45, but I refuse to interact with any of this prove your age bollocks because I know full well that "we won't store your details" and "we will share your details with 1284 trusted data partners" are the same picture.
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There is actually a technique called steganography, that does exactly that. It is used to hide arbitrary binary info inside images, while still fooling your eyes into thinking there is nothing sketchy there.
Can't it be detected? I imagine ML could be used to automate to some extent.
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Streisand effect: the BBC is telling every last kid that VPN is exactly the way to circumvent the prohibition.
Because the goal is to outlaw VPNs. To do that they need enough children to use VPNs to make it credible enough.
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Even if they go that route, and frankly I think they would get lynched before we got to that point, they can't monitor every single connection. That just way too much traffic.
That's why China has a firewall, because that's the best option they can come up with because monitoring every Chinese persons data is an impossible task. Their only option would be to go North Korea route, and just close the internet but that would basically end their economy.
Why do you think the telecoms got away with stalling upgrades and fiber roll outs for so long?
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
I remember when my step-son was a teenager. I didn't care that he watched porn. I cared that he infected the family PC with viruses and malware trying to watch porn.