Apple sued by shareholders for allegedly overstating AI progress
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Apple used rigged demos and made false claims about their own technology so outstanding that their own project managers were taken aback by how far behind the features actually were vs. what was pushed. There's already informal documentaries on the massive internal disconnects within Apple that have lead to poor product testing and stagnation.
So, your MO is fooling customers since Jobs. You learn that fooling customers doesn't ever get punished. Then your shareholders become fooled well enough over time. Then your management is so involved in fooling customers and shareholders that they don't know anything else. Then there's bound to happen a moment.
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This can be a very good thing or a very bad thing.
It can be a very good thing if they try to actually become a normal company and not hype-serf.
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Have you seen the typical apple zealot?
An apple has more intelligence.
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Have you seen the typical Linux zealot lol
As a FreeBSD zealot, I really don't see anything far from norm with Linux zealots. They are a bit conflict-seeking and ignorant, but that's ok.
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Was Safari for Windows a good, bad, or average product?
Normal. I used Opera. QuickTime player for Windows was nice. Used it under W2K for most of media things in the interwebs.
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Apple professional management have run the company down with their many foolish decisions. Feels similar to how Microsoft became worse annd worse after XP.
I'm pretty sure you can trace the management downturn of American companies back to a change in MBA curriculum.
You can see when they started getting hired after the shift. Where they were taught that as long as your department is doing well and has positive numbers, LITERALLY nothing else matters. The company could be crashing and burning around you, you might even be causing it, but as long as those numbers are going up, you'll quickly get hired at another company. Because every single iota of their education is about pleasing investors who only care about money now, and not potential money in a few years.
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This can be a very good thing or a very bad thing.
It would make no difference at all.
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After W2K I didn't like XP all that much, it felt slower and was too "Chinese-looking" (how it could be said in my language in those years). Now I'm nostalgic over chromecore aesthetic and that look, silver Game Boy, silver PS2, silver SW Phantom Menace interiors. Or matte black as an alternative, too looking very cool. Or at least that "normal" matte white. But in UIs - XP felt a bit too much, tiring for my eyes. Still, XP with default blue theme and jump-to-lightspeed wallpaper is what home and nostalgie are for me.
Never heard that phrase before. What language might that be if you don't mind me asking?
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Why doesn't Apple become a PBC?
A Pretty Big Company? I think they are beyond that classification.
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Never heard that phrase before. What language might that be if you don't mind me asking?
Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
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I hope this is the beginning of the end for AI.
What?! Haven't your heard?
- FSD is happening next year, for sure,
- we're still 18 months away from developers being replaced,
- it's "deep" reasoning, basically nearly ASI!
/s (obviously)
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I'm pretty sure you can trace the management downturn of American companies back to a change in MBA curriculum.
You can see when they started getting hired after the shift. Where they were taught that as long as your department is doing well and has positive numbers, LITERALLY nothing else matters. The company could be crashing and burning around you, you might even be causing it, but as long as those numbers are going up, you'll quickly get hired at another company. Because every single iota of their education is about pleasing investors who only care about money now, and not potential money in a few years.
They go on about long-term investment and then you find out that what they're actually talking about is things that will start returning a profit in 6 months. Half a year is long-term to them.
If you have a long-term view and want to make quite a lot of money you probably couldn't do better than shorting Apple stock. They never innovate anymore (every iPhone is literally the same as the previous years), and they spend huge amounts of money on failed projects (Vision Pro), meanwhile they continue not to fix ongoing serious issues (Safari).
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I mean you do have a messaging problem. Your leadership has received bad messaging about what "AI" can do!
If they are anything like the leadership at my company they have received plenty of information about what AI can do from that IT, but you see they went to this convention in Las Vegas and some self-styled "business guru" told them everything they wanted to hear.
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Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
Ah. Thanks, that's insightful
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Have you seen a Windows zealot?
Yeah me neither
I have, quite a few in fact. Recently I got into a discussion with someone who was complaining about how bad Linux was because installing it from scratch took an extra ~20 minutes of configuration to set up drivers, meanwhile his Windows systems "just work". What he didn't mention, though, was that his Windows systems that "just worked" were pre-build machines that came pre-installed with Windows, in other words the manufacturer already did the hard part of getting all of the drivers installed ahead of time and baked into the image. Turns out he had never actually installed Windows on a bare-metal system before and had to deal with the absolute fucking nightmare Windows driver management is, so he had no basis for comparison, of course he refused to recognize that as a possibility though.
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I have, quite a few in fact. Recently I got into a discussion with someone who was complaining about how bad Linux was because installing it from scratch took an extra ~20 minutes of configuration to set up drivers, meanwhile his Windows systems "just work". What he didn't mention, though, was that his Windows systems that "just worked" were pre-build machines that came pre-installed with Windows, in other words the manufacturer already did the hard part of getting all of the drivers installed ahead of time and baked into the image. Turns out he had never actually installed Windows on a bare-metal system before and had to deal with the absolute fucking nightmare Windows driver management is, so he had no basis for comparison, of course he refused to recognize that as a possibility though.
That doesn't sound like zealot as much as someone who doesn't want to think about it though
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That doesn't sound like zealot as much as someone who doesn't want to think about it though
In his mind, Windows works, Linux doesn't, and nothing and no-one can convince him otherwise. That sounds like a zealot to me, but maybe you had something else in mind.
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Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
In English we used to use the word "Scotch", like Scottish. We still use it to refer to scotch tape - cheap tape.
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In English we used to use the word "Scotch", like Scottish. We still use it to refer to scotch tape - cheap tape.
Scotch tape is a brand name.
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Scotch tape is a brand name.
And it was named that because it was cheap tape.
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