Apple sued by shareholders for allegedly overstating AI progress
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Why doesn't Apple become a PBC?
A Pretty Big Company? I think they are beyond that classification.
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Never heard that phrase before. What language might that be if you don't mind me asking?
Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
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I hope this is the beginning of the end for AI.
What?! Haven't your heard?
- FSD is happening next year, for sure,
- we're still 18 months away from developers being replaced,
- it's "deep" reasoning, basically nearly ASI!
/s (obviously)
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I'm pretty sure you can trace the management downturn of American companies back to a change in MBA curriculum.
You can see when they started getting hired after the shift. Where they were taught that as long as your department is doing well and has positive numbers, LITERALLY nothing else matters. The company could be crashing and burning around you, you might even be causing it, but as long as those numbers are going up, you'll quickly get hired at another company. Because every single iota of their education is about pleasing investors who only care about money now, and not potential money in a few years.
They go on about long-term investment and then you find out that what they're actually talking about is things that will start returning a profit in 6 months. Half a year is long-term to them.
If you have a long-term view and want to make quite a lot of money you probably couldn't do better than shorting Apple stock. They never innovate anymore (every iPhone is literally the same as the previous years), and they spend huge amounts of money on failed projects (Vision Pro), meanwhile they continue not to fix ongoing serious issues (Safari).
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I mean you do have a messaging problem. Your leadership has received bad messaging about what "AI" can do!
If they are anything like the leadership at my company they have received plenty of information about what AI can do from that IT, but you see they went to this convention in Las Vegas and some self-styled "business guru" told them everything they wanted to hear.
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Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
Ah. Thanks, that's insightful
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Have you seen a Windows zealot?
Yeah me neither
I have, quite a few in fact. Recently I got into a discussion with someone who was complaining about how bad Linux was because installing it from scratch took an extra ~20 minutes of configuration to set up drivers, meanwhile his Windows systems "just work". What he didn't mention, though, was that his Windows systems that "just worked" were pre-build machines that came pre-installed with Windows, in other words the manufacturer already did the hard part of getting all of the drivers installed ahead of time and baked into the image. Turns out he had never actually installed Windows on a bare-metal system before and had to deal with the absolute fucking nightmare Windows driver management is, so he had no basis for comparison, of course he refused to recognize that as a possibility though.
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I have, quite a few in fact. Recently I got into a discussion with someone who was complaining about how bad Linux was because installing it from scratch took an extra ~20 minutes of configuration to set up drivers, meanwhile his Windows systems "just work". What he didn't mention, though, was that his Windows systems that "just worked" were pre-build machines that came pre-installed with Windows, in other words the manufacturer already did the hard part of getting all of the drivers installed ahead of time and baked into the image. Turns out he had never actually installed Windows on a bare-metal system before and had to deal with the absolute fucking nightmare Windows driver management is, so he had no basis for comparison, of course he refused to recognize that as a possibility though.
That doesn't sound like zealot as much as someone who doesn't want to think about it though
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That doesn't sound like zealot as much as someone who doesn't want to think about it though
In his mind, Windows works, Linux doesn't, and nothing and no-one can convince him otherwise. That sounds like a zealot to me, but maybe you had something else in mind.
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Well, in Russia in early 00s (my childhood) they'd say that about things looking like Chinese toys of cheap plastic. As in "Chinese means cheap, but low-quality and probably a toy". Such things were indeed mostly produced in China, so. It's rather that back then you'd sometimes have better things, now everything is like this.
In English we used to use the word "Scotch", like Scottish. We still use it to refer to scotch tape - cheap tape.
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In English we used to use the word "Scotch", like Scottish. We still use it to refer to scotch tape - cheap tape.
Scotch tape is a brand name.
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Scotch tape is a brand name.
And it was named that because it was cheap tape.
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In his mind, Windows works, Linux doesn't, and nothing and no-one can convince him otherwise. That sounds like a zealot to me, but maybe you had something else in mind.
And claiming that it works is zealotry? Sounds like he does like Linux, that doesn't make him a Windows zealot. Apathetic is kinda Windows target demographic and the antithesis of zealotry
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I hope this is the beginning of the end for AI.
Peak ludites gathering here lmao
I'd be willing to literally bet everything I own that AI will not be gone anytime soon. It's absurd to even think that we would ever go back to pre-llm world unless a world ending event happens.
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Meanwhile in my company the leadership just thinks that we have a messaging problem after the new AI stuff we implemented made absolutely no difference in the sales numbers.
I'm surprised they at least know they have a problem. I would think these companies would just say "look how the sales numbers haven't changed, that means that we were correct in doing the AI thing. Without it, sales would be sinking into the ocean!"
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Apple could have just...not gone for AI at all, they're now in an awkward spot where they know it would make their product worse to implement it, yet they promised anyways
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In English we used to use the word "Scotch", like Scottish. We still use it to refer to scotch tape - cheap tape.
And the phonetic transcription of that is how we still call that in Russian.
Well, with "Chinese" in Russian it didn't stick. I'm somewhat sad, I think certain political conditions also make the Russian language poorer and weaker with time. In 00s I, despite being autistic, could somewhat "feel the wave" of the people around me. Now it just ... feels as if someone tracks and tries to slowly kill all the good things, as if just being in control is not enough for those people.
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And claiming that it works is zealotry? Sounds like he does like Linux, that doesn't make him a Windows zealot. Apathetic is kinda Windows target demographic and the antithesis of zealotry
What are you talking about?
He doesn't like Linux, he specifically said he doesn't like Linux because it "doesn't work" in his opinion, because it takes additional setup time that his Windows systems don't take. He only likes Windows, and he likes it because it "just works". However, the reason it "just works" is because someone else did all the hard work setting it up for him, he's never had to set it up himself like he was attempting to do with Linux. He hates Linux, loves Windows, and the reason he loves Windows is because he's clueless on how much setup it actually takes. He's not apathetic, he's ignorant, and a zealot.
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Based shareholders
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For this to be a good thing the shareholders would need to agree to a technical CEO rather than a marketing one and that comes with the wee lil' issue of raining on their AI parade. If Tim Cook goes his replacement will be even worse.
As much as I dislike Steve Jobs personally, Apple needs someone at the helm who is product and customer experience oriented like he was. Obviously, technical know-how is good, but someone exclusively technical would flounder. Tim Cook is a supply chain guy. His replacement would almost certainly be someone marketing oriented, since innovation no longer drives Apple. Sales do.
