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Here’s What Happened When I Made My College Students Put Away Their Phones

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    Only barbarians take notes by hand. A TRUE GREEK PHILOSOPHER would simply memorize all the requisite facts. Paper is dissolving the very moral fabric of our society. Smash that /s button for more bug facts!

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    There's a lot of comments about how digital devices are viable/helpful for note-taking and just as good as a pen. I think that's missing the crucial point: virtually every device we own today is designed as a distraction machine.

    A pen + paper isn't going have any notifications or reminders or updates or emails or texts or ads or alarms or alerts. If there's any device without those that's as reliable and as cheap as a notebook, I've never heard of it.

  • No, I don’t think being assessed relative to subpar students is a benefit. You’d get a better letter grade, sure. But likely a worse education due to “lowering the bar”, which is what you paid for. Educators often can’t grade on absolute scales because the pass/fail ratio of the students factors into their own performance assessment.

    Grades don't indicate the quality of your education anyway, they indicate your performance in a class. If someone else does poorly and that benefits your grade, the quality of your education hasn't changed, only your grade.

  • There's a lot of comments about how digital devices are viable/helpful for note-taking and just as good as a pen. I think that's missing the crucial point: virtually every device we own today is designed as a distraction machine.

    A pen + paper isn't going have any notifications or reminders or updates or emails or texts or ads or alarms or alerts. If there's any device without those that's as reliable and as cheap as a notebook, I've never heard of it.

    Putting a device on airplane mode removes the distractions.
    If I play a video game while the lecture is going on, well that is on me, or the lecture, or both.

  • My issue is that I type faster than I write. I think instead they should push for something like audio/memo recorders.

    For me it was always about:

    1. listening
    2. understanding
    3. figuring out what's relevant
    4. writing the relevant parts down

    Being able to take notes with a pen wasn't about how fast I wrote but about how little I wrote. Notes were there only to help me remember what was covered and write down some concrete values/dates/names that are hard to remember.

  • Supernotes are my preference. They are e-ink, and have an option for a smaller size than remarkables. Constant great software/firmware development, durable, and e-ink. Downside, if you care (I do not) is they're b+w only.

    Can side load android apps, they sync fine, work as e-reader, etc. Good stuff.

    Remarkables are good I think but they have one foot in the digital artist niche and one in the note niche, whereas a supernote is firmly in the business/meeting/note niche.

    I can see how a smaller form factor could be convenient. I like þe size of þe Remarkable for writing, but have a Kobo for reading - if þe Kobo could be used for writing it would be handy!

    Color is a nice-to-have, but it's not a deal breaker. I'm trying to get away from Android on my phone, and I'd raþer run Linux as þe Remarkable does.

    What's really great is þat þere are a lot of ePaper and e-ink options. Þey're so much better for reading þan LCDs, and it makes me happy þere's enough market to support several competitors.

  • 😂😂😂😂 I don’t think so . Just anxiety to have it back

    hey. it occurs to me too late that you might have taken exception to the tone of my previous remark. i had intended it to be genuinely helpful but im afraid it came out as world weary and, well, a little unpleasant. and i didn't actually offer you any recovery resource. I just basically said "you got a problem lol gl" which is an enormous dickhead move in retrospect.

    here. check out https://smartrecovery.org/

    it's a science-based alternative to the twelve step programs you might be hesitant to join due to their religious infuence. they have lots of in-person meetings and online too. i personally get more value out of in-person but everyone has their own preference and it's nice to be able to make a meeting wherever I am.

    the general philosophy can be summed up, "you have a choice." it teaches that unpleasant emotions like anxiety are generally transient and offers strategies for coping with urges and building a balanced lifestyle. it offers a toolkit and an adaptable method.

    it does focus generally speaking on substance addiction, but recognizes that addiction takes many forms. sex addiction, gambling, shopping, intimacy, trichotillomania, and yes, phone addiction. the most recent addiction to our meeting group is a young trans woman who struggles with self-harm urges. addiction is not something to be ashamed of, and it's more common than you think.

    please check it out. you don't have to live in service to that anxiety.

  • Taking a seat in a full class to fuck around on your phone could fit that bill. Someone else might have wanted to be in your seat. In this scenario, your actions in that class could have repercussions beyond just the classroom.

    Sure, someone else certainly does want that seat, provided your school doesn't suck so much that there's empty seats, but that doesn't mean they deserve that seat. Presumably entry to college is awarded based on merit, and success or failure in college should also be based on merit. If I choose to screw up that chance, then that's on me, and it's probably better that I learn that lesson early in life (i.e. in college) instead of teachers enforcing rigid structure to increase graduation rates.

  • What we did in school and uni never required processing and summarizing anything. Teacher/lecturer would simply dictate and we had to write down anything that what explicitly preceded by "write this down". I'd agree processing and summarizing helps with learning, but that's totally irrelevant and doesn't have anything to do with writing,

    Really? That sounds like way too much hand-holding for a college course. I certainly had times when the teacher told us things that would definitely be on the test, but they didn't do that for anywhere near the majority of the test content, only when rattling off a bunch of trivia and noting which of that was actually necessary to remember (i.e. remember start and end dates of WW2, but not the date of every battle).

    Tests should be more about concepts rather than trivia, so "write this down" shouldn't be a very common thing.

    I’d agree processing and summarizing helps with learning, but that’s totally irrelevant and doesn’t have anything to do with writing,

    But it's not. Studies have shown that handwritten notes improve absorption of material. You can obviously get the same results by improving other study methods (i.e. reviewing and editing digital notes later), but if we're strictly talking about note-taking itself (i.e. if you discard the notes afterward), handwritten notes are superior. So if you're in a situation where you have audio (or better yet, transcribed) lectures, handwritten notes can improve your mastery of the content. You'll get much more value from recording lectures and hand-writing notes during class than typing notes into a computer.

  • Really? That sounds like way too much hand-holding for a college course. I certainly had times when the teacher told us things that would definitely be on the test, but they didn't do that for anywhere near the majority of the test content, only when rattling off a bunch of trivia and noting which of that was actually necessary to remember (i.e. remember start and end dates of WW2, but not the date of every battle).

    Tests should be more about concepts rather than trivia, so "write this down" shouldn't be a very common thing.

    I’d agree processing and summarizing helps with learning, but that’s totally irrelevant and doesn’t have anything to do with writing,

    But it's not. Studies have shown that handwritten notes improve absorption of material. You can obviously get the same results by improving other study methods (i.e. reviewing and editing digital notes later), but if we're strictly talking about note-taking itself (i.e. if you discard the notes afterward), handwritten notes are superior. So if you're in a situation where you have audio (or better yet, transcribed) lectures, handwritten notes can improve your mastery of the content. You'll get much more value from recording lectures and hand-writing notes during class than typing notes into a computer.

    So studies have shown that something is true that was never true for me in practice. Well, maybe I did something wrong. Those who never tried taking handwritten notes in their lives should definitely try, maybe it works for them. Or maybe they will simply enjoy it. Doesn't hurt to try.

  • Studying, in its base form, follows these steps:

    -take in the information

    -record the information

    -review the information you've recorded in chunks. Best practice is to review your newly recorded information at the end of the session, and at the start of the next session review old information. If you can review ALL your recorded information on a subject at the start of a new session that's best - at first it's slow but as you review a couple times you're skimming or skipping most of it and only focus on the parts that you have trouble retaining.

    With that being said, the ways we prefer to TAKE IN and RECORD information vary between people, but the overall concept does not.

    In terms of flash cards, they're great for memorization. That has not changed - it's a base way to record and review information.

    A modern version of this applies the base method but digitizes it. Anki is a very good and popular modern flash card app/program

    -you can make flash cards with text, but also audio, images, and video

    -you can save decks and sync them across all devices and share/upload decks

    -it's "smart." If you spend more time struggling to answer a card, or get it wrong, it'll show it to you more frequently. The reverse is true if you get it right every time quickly, you see it much less frequently

    -it can nag you to study. You can set it up to notify you every hour, day, whatever and thrust 10-1000 cards in your face, whatever you set it to.

    -tons of ways to configure it so it meets your specific needs.

    So, that's how things have modernized, for flash cards at least. But plenty of people still buy 3x5 index cards and keep a physical deck if that's what they prefer. Again, the method isn't as important as the process of receive/record/review.

    Personally I like to use an e-ink handwriting tablet for in person note taking (all the benefits of paper/handwriting without the fuss of paper, plus lots of other features like cut/paste, linking/bookmarking items, etc) and I prefer typing into a word document when I'm studying from a book. The word document is very clean and I can use structured outlining formatting as well as a quick Ctrl+f to find terms I've written about. But whether it's e-ink tablet or word doc, the base method is the same as when I was younger and it was all paper.

    I think phones have their uses but they are awful for note taking. The fastest texter is much slower than writing by hand or typing, and you are so, so much more limited in underlining, highlighting, little symbols, positioning text in weird ways to symbolize things, etc. I don't advocate that people use them unless they're in a bind and have nothing else, but a lot of kids grow up these days and that's their go to method because of familiarity, and we shouldn't encourage that because it's flat worse. However, phones can do great things such as record/transcribe, photos, videos etc - so they're a great addition to the toolbox, but they're not a NOTE TAKING replacement unless they're a stylus/handwriting type, and even those are a poor cousin to a dedicated device for the purpose, but they can be a more affordable/versatile/portable version. My note writer was about $500 and that's a lot of cheese but it was worth every penny to me because of how I use it.

    Stawwp. Staaaaawwp! I'm not retiring yet! (Though I will shamelessly accept many and or large donations to start right now, it's probably less than you think)

  • One thing that worked for me was recording the lesson so that I didn't necessarily have to take notes right away and could absorb more information being told to me, have time to think about that information and ask questions in the moment. Then I could go home, re-listen to the lecture, write out some notes, and then fine tune those notes by reading the source material and other learning aids. This worked better for me especially having ADHD than trying to write notes and missing parts of the lecture as a result. Being able to take photos of the board was also useful, especially when diagrams and or visual information was being relayed.

    I do think it's important to experiment with what you have available and find strategies that work for you. Not everyone learns the same way.

    I love gadgets. So it's like what will people have come up with by the time I retire. And I have absolutely loved stationary. I don't know why. It could easily be a problem.

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    data centers and supercomputing facilities, which consume voracious amounts of electricity and water Memphis is on the Mississippi. Evaporating the volume of the Mississippi at Memphis with graphics cards would be a pretty impressive feat. kagis https://snoflo.org/flow/report/tennessee/ TENNESSEE FLOW REPORT August 22 2025 Streamflow levels across Tennessee are currently 92.0% of normal, with the Mississippi River At Memphis reporting the highest discharge in the state with 354000cfs 345,000 cubic feet of water per second is a pretty substantial amount of water. EDIT: Water has a heat of vaporization of 2.23 kJ/g. 345k ft³ water is 9.7×10⁹ cm³, so 9.7×10⁹g That's about 2.2×10¹⁰kJ to vaporize it (disregarding the specific heat of water, just the heat of vaporization). 1kJ ≈ 0.28 Wh. So 6,160,000,000 Wh to vaporize the water going through in a second. 3,600 seconds in an hour. So at a flow rate of 345k ft³ that'd sink about 22 trillion watts through vaporization alone. https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1925 In 2024, the world wide energy consumption was about 186,000 TWhs 8760 hours in a year. So global average power usage is about 21 TW. If we put the entire world's generated electricity towards heat to vaporize the Mississippi at Memphis, it'd still fall a bit short. EDIT2: I also inadvertently transposed two digits (should be 354,000 ft³/sec rather than 345,000 ft³/sec) in transcribing the initial flow rate, so it'd fall slightly shorter.
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