This myth needs to die. The only parts of BSD that Apple used for iOS/osx, were from bsd4.4 (released in like the 1990s). And even then it was only parts of the user space.

The kernel is a completely different beast.

Those companies have always developed some of their own, "hardware-specific" software and never released the results to the public either.

(Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's probably why pixels of the past have had really good ROMs, while phones from other companies are lucky to get LineageOS on them.)

That's not what I meant. Will the other OEMs have to pay Google for using Android 17 (since it's not open-source anymore) ?

To use the word "Android" on their devices, they already have some kind of backroom deal with Google. Nobody really knows what that deal entails, though. It would take a(nother) lawsuit to find out.

I specifically said BSD style license.
ChatGPT claims i the kennel started as a mix of the mach and FreeBSD kennels as base, improved by Apple. sadly I could but find any proper source

are you seen to know that "The kernel is a completely different beast.", maybe you can shed some light

I think iOS is better than stock Android because Apple is not in ad business so it has better privacy protections. Its locked ecosystem sucks but privacy wise it's better.

I went with GrapheneOS because it's fairly large user base means that it will last longer than other, less used mods. But in the end it will only survive for as long as Google let's it.

Hope and fairy farts mostly. I'm assuming they'll branch out from what they have now if Android chooses to do that. Ala MariaDB.

It's not. iOS has just been awful for a long time and since it hasn't been downgraded in recent memory and some people take that as a positive thing.

iOS does not have better privacy protections. Privacy is more than putting the word Privacy in an ad. French Regulators fined Apple millions for illegal data collection AND they're still being sued by multiple orgs. In fact, you have no choice to opt out of the collection, only to opt out of it being used for personalization. Android has more granular controls over every permission. Until they really pull the plug GrapheneOS and others still count on Androids side as well.

Apple was cool before the iMac in '98. After that they've been drumming their products down. There is genuinely no advantage. "It just works" except it works less than my windows machine. "It's more Unix like" Windows has WSL now. "Muh Enclave Chip" TPM is better. Both collect your data.

Anyone who prefers or likes Apple products does it because of vibes and appearance rather than anything with technical.

I do want to add, Android beating iOS in privacy isn't a high mark. It doesn't mean Android is good with privacy.

You are right that it will continue, I was too dramatic. However the big advantage of AOSP is to have a solid common base.

AFAIK (I may be wrong), you have to pay google for bundling Google Play Services on your phone. For example, Purism probably does not pay Google anything because it only uses AOSP + it's own suite of services. However, Android 17 will be a bit concerning. Let's wait till we get a bit more clarity.

Electronic Frontier Foundation doesn't agree with you: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/apples-apptrackingtransparency-upending-mobile-phone-tracking

"Looking ahead, the mobile operating system market is essentially a duopoly, and Google controls the larger part of the -opoly. While Apple pushes through new privacy measures like ATT, Google has left its own Ad ID alone. Of the two, Apple is undoubtedly doing more to rein in the privacy abuses of advertising technology. Nearly every criticism that can be made about the state of privacy on iOS goes double for Android. Your move, Google."

I trust EFF more then I trust you, sorry.

I trust ads more than I trust them being sued for millions by regulators across the globe.

No wonder you ended up with an Apple device. Lol.

As I said, I'm using Graphene OS. I think you're confused about it the same way you're confused about what EFF is and who is fighting Apple and why.