Google Keeps Making Smartphones Worse
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what's needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app
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Thanks for the write up! It honestly sounds like it’s be fine for me. My iPhone is already extremely bare and stripped down. I barely use the camera too, so like, idk I don’t feel like I’d be missing much?
If I could buy a super cheap used one for testing, I’d do it. I’m waiting for my iPhone SE to die on me anyways before making the switch.
If by any chance you can be in Brussels for a bit, I can lend you mine for a while to test.
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So… we are nearly there but unless you have a very VERY minimum usage of your phone, basically a dumb phone with a bit of CLI to remote connect to your own server from time to time, it’s probably not practical for now.
....and, that's me.
I gave up on my phones. There's no way to remain connected to the modern world and my own without just keeping everything off of my phone and using it entirely in stock NPC mode. Trackers? Adware? Malware? Doesn't matter, I only use it for calls, banking apps and cash apps. How do I access my personal, more 1337 haxxor shit?
Laptop, although I can do a lot of work over ssh on phones and use things like syncthing and nextcloud to get around the ecosystem, still, but for the most part, I'm back in 2007, baby! We're carrying messenger bags! We don't care!
banking apps and cash apps
Unfortunately that's prevents from switching to Linux proper over (hopefully deGoogled) Android.
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Thanks for these, especially the "we're not going anywhere" link. I was hesitant to switch because I was worried about future support on my Pixel 7. Here's the full quote for anyone that didn't check the above link:
Many companies and individuals are trying to mislead people about the future of GrapheneOS to promote their insecure products and services. GrapheneOS is not going anywhere. We've made it clear we're shipping Android 16 soon and that the supported devices will remain supported.
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Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what's needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app
It's a bit of a catch honestly.
OSS/community Linux graphical environments have kind of always been ~5 years out from what's needed. 15 years ago they were behind ~5 years, 5 years ago they where behind ~5 years.
The only difference is today. I think they're only behind by ~3-4 years thanks to the backwards movement of things like Windows and OSx staleness.
Mobile operating systems are in a worse place.
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You realize there's a whole rest of the world that's not the EU?
Oh my fucking god, really?!
You're so smart, that never occurred to me. I thought that there was only 27 countries in the world, and all of them were in one continent!
Yes, I do realise that, genius. I'm not from an EU country myself.
However, I engaged my brain cells and quickly realised that most phones that exist are sold in the EU, and therefore the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide.
Like how the EU mandated USB-C and now it's worldwide. The EU has quietly become the market that sets international standards over the past 20 years.
I know it seems like I'm being mean in this comment, but fuck me it's the most Reddit comment ever. A pointless comment just begging to start a pointless argument. Nobody can be bothered with that trolling shit. Do better.
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Oh my fucking god, really?!
You're so smart, that never occurred to me. I thought that there was only 27 countries in the world, and all of them were in one continent!
Yes, I do realise that, genius. I'm not from an EU country myself.
However, I engaged my brain cells and quickly realised that most phones that exist are sold in the EU, and therefore the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide.
Like how the EU mandated USB-C and now it's worldwide. The EU has quietly become the market that sets international standards over the past 20 years.
I know it seems like I'm being mean in this comment, but fuck me it's the most Reddit comment ever. A pointless comment just begging to start a pointless argument. Nobody can be bothered with that trolling shit. Do better.
the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide
I wouldn't be so sure. There's a vested interest in NOT shipping them outside the EU. It's called planned obsolescence. Just looks at Macs and OCLP. It's so easy to keep older Macs updated that it's actually able to be done by some random developers in their free time (not to trivialize this effort, just to say that it would be extremely trivial for Apple as the developer of the OS and one of the most profitable companies in the world to do it). And yet Apple does not ship these updates to them. Why? Because they want you to buy new shit and they know not doing so will render them virtually useless in a short time.
I know it seems like I'm being mean in this comment
You are just being mean and extremely rude. It's completely unnecessary and I've done absolutely nothing to deserve such language. You are actively making this community shittier.
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it's not "mostly", it's only available for several latest Pixel generations.
It's not the "latest" Pixel generations, devices as old as the Pixel 4 receive extended support (although it's obviously not recommended) and that's mostly because Google does not support them. This will be greatly improved moving forward, since Google has promised much longer update cycles for new devices.
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If by any chance you can be in Brussels for a bit, I can lend you mine for a while to test.
I appreciate that! I’m in the states unfortunately
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Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what's needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app
I just saw KDE Bigscreen got reboot. While it's not exactly the same (its for TVs, like Android TV and Steam Big Picture mode), it's nice to see major desktop environments(DE) adopt new UI features for small and large devices. This compliments work done by groups like PinePhone, who laid the groundwork for Linux phones.
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banking apps and cash apps
Unfortunately that's prevents from switching to Linux proper over (hopefully deGoogled) Android.
You just need a window into their world.
Carry your Linux phone and tether it to an old android, install what you need and turn it off.
carry two things, like some kind of asshole that carries two things!?
When I was 19, we all carried cameras and mp3 players around too. It's hardly a stretch.
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Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what's needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app
you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively
What whaaaat? I didn't know this! Thanks for the tip
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you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively
What whaaaat? I didn't know this! Thanks for the tip
Yeah how the hell do you do this?
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The big problem with anything not Google or Samsung is, as it's always been, software support. You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash. So you can save a buck on the short term but it will cost you more in the long run and you'll have shitty devices all the way along anyway.
You can buy a 2 year old Pixel for $2-300 and it will last you another 4-5 years (unless Google remotely nukes your battery).
anything not Google or Samsung is, as it’s always been, software support.
Motorola.has 5 years on most of its new phones nowadays
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
The stupid attempt to have everyone leave bluetooth always on pisses me off. They've made the BT quick tile 2 more presses to toggle on or off is ridiculous. It's not a quick tile.
I've just put a BT on/off widget on my home screen.
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
2 days ago I moved from GrapheneOS back to Stock Pixel in my 8 Pro, just to see what all the hype about the new android 16 in Pixel is about. Jesus, this is way worse than I remember. i tried it for 2 whole days, and that shit just won't allow me to have ANY control over my phone. It's fucking ridiculous. On Android 15 I was able to uninstall Google Drive, Meet, Youtube, and many other Google apps, this time around all it would allow was "disable". What's next, removing the ability to disable (which I don't trust anyway)?
Fast forward to today, I'm back on GOS, and my anxiety levels are down again. This shit is insane, and I honestly can't understand why anyone would put up with this crap.
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Google keeps making everything worse.
It's telling how incompetent they've become when their LLM AI is the absolute worst one, including mechahitler before that update.
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EU only
Ebay it is. Bands are what matter. If it picks up Tmobile, Tello and the like, who cares who's market it's for?
But really, for me, it's still Android. It's just a band-aid on the bigger problem of reliance on Google.
Well AT&T banned the (better) international models from their network a while back. They work fine. Just banned.
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
Maybe it was better when Android phones didn’t get updates. Eh?
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Unfortunately the Android experience is getting more and more bloated and users' freedom to tinker with their phones or sideload apps is getting more and more difficult. The Play Store is riddled with more ads than useful content. Just try searching for something, and oftentimes more than half of your screen is ads.
I've been with Android since the start and I hate what Google is reducing it to. It pains me that the only viable alternative is Apple and I feel trapped.
Funny enough, having Microsoft making the Windows Phone again would make a 3rd player, and maybe some competition in the market.
I don't know many companies that have the resources to fight in this arena right now...
