Google Keeps Making Smartphones Worse
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You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash.
Yeah, I've noticed this as well...
... which is why I was surprised when I read that Nothing Phone 3 will get 5 years of updates + 2 years of security updates.
Nothing Phone 3 will get the company's best software update promise to date
The Nothing Phone 3 is confirmed to get up to seven years of software updates, including five major Android versions.
Android Authority (www.androidauthority.com)
Nothing’s Co-Founder and Head of Marketing, Akis Evangelidis, has confirmed that the upcoming Nothing Phone 3 will ship with a “5+7” software update promise. ...likely means the phone will get five years of Android version updates and seven years of security patches...
Although, you can't install GrapheneOS on Nothing phones... so,
isnt graphene mostly pixels only.
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
Still use my Windows Phones with Windows 10 Mobile as my daily drivers. Best OS to date.
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Yup. Motorola is Chinese Lenovo now sadly. Lenovo is absolute trash devices and support.
This is false. Lenovo has some of the highest marks for reliability, customer service, and upgradability; not to mention price.
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Still use my Windows Phones with Windows 10 Mobile as my daily drivers. Best OS to date.
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Unfortunately the Android experience is getting more and more bloated and users' freedom to tinker with their phones or sideload apps is getting more and more difficult. The Play Store is riddled with more ads than useful content. Just try searching for something, and oftentimes more than half of your screen is ads.
I've been with Android since the start and I hate what Google is reducing it to. It pains me that the only viable alternative is Apple and I feel trapped.
F-Droid is a decent replacement for the play store. Lots of FOSS and less-enshittified apps available.
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Can't speak for Ubuntu Touch but tried PostMarketOS on PinePhone and PinePhone Pro.
The PP works well, good support for most things included SIM, camera, BT, etc but it's big and bulky, also IMHO not powerful enough for Waydroid so no Android apps, "just" Linux. Relying on the browser to avoid using app is rarely practical as it's too slow.
The PPPro being more powerful should cover the gap... but some lack of support, specifically the camera, makes it tricky as daily driver.
Both PP and PPPro don't have great battery and/or power management so you can go through a day of usage, barely, and you might get stuck in a cycling loop if you depleted it entirely. That means also as daily driver, if you are not very cautious, it's tricky.
So... we are nearly there but unless you have a very VERY minimum usage of your phone, basically a dumb phone with a bit of CLI to remote connect to your own server from time to time, it's probably not practical for now.
Maybe the Liberux NEXX thanks to its power would have closed the gap but the failed crowd funding campaign shows that price point does not have a market fit right now.
So… we are nearly there but unless you have a very VERY minimum usage of your phone, basically a dumb phone with a bit of CLI to remote connect to your own server from time to time, it’s probably not practical for now.
....and, that's me.
I gave up on my phones. There's no way to remain connected to the modern world and my own without just keeping everything off of my phone and using it entirely in stock NPC mode. Trackers? Adware? Malware? Doesn't matter, I only use it for calls, banking apps and cash apps. How do I access my personal, more 1337 haxxor shit?
Laptop, although I can do a lot of work over ssh on phones and use things like syncthing and nextcloud to get around the ecosystem, still, but for the most part, I'm back in 2007, baby! We're carrying messenger bags! We don't care!
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Linux phones will hopefully fix that soon(ish)
the ecosystem is so weak at this time, So maybe in the future it will improve?
Ik you can run Android apps via a container or smth -
... and I want my headphone jack, back.
Yep, didn't use it much but I have studio headphones that I lliked to plug from time to time.
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Unfortunately for the EU only.EU only
Ebay it is. Bands are what matter. If it picks up Tmobile, Tello and the like, who cares who's market it's for?
But really, for me, it's still Android. It's just a band-aid on the bigger problem of reliance on Google.
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isnt graphene mostly pixels only.
it's not "mostly", it's only available for several latest Pixel generations.
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
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Linux phones will hopefully fix that soon(ish)
It's the year of the Linux phone!
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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.
Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.
MS keeps making Windows worse but that is not a problem because Linux is great on PCs. The reason is that PC is made out of standardized plug&play components that you can make generic OS image for.
There is no such thing in smartphone world. Each chipset is it's own Linux fork that gets only most crucial bug fixes while in warranty. Same is true for ARM SBCs where I believe the only board that supports generic image are new RPis.
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Still use my Windows Phones with Windows 10 Mobile as my daily drivers. Best OS to date.
I loved my Lumia 1520, but it just doesn't hold a candle to a modern Android phone with LineageOS installed. Both in functionality and in privacy.
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Spanish authorities*. Not really European-wide thing, but a local one.
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Linux phones will hopefully fix that soon(ish)
PostmarketOS using Waydroid for the neccessary apps, anyone has experience to share?
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Sadly iOS is not much better
But is it even slightly better? It's debatable. Both are completely awful, but I guess iOS is just terrible in different ways.
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F-Droid is a decent replacement for the play store. Lots of FOSS and less-enshittified apps available.
Tried to rely fully on F-droid several years ago. That experiment went just fine until I needed up update the apps. Turns out, there wasn't a simple one button solution to that. I had to manually update each and every app one by one. Is it any better these days?
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Unfortunately the Android experience is getting more and more bloated and users' freedom to tinker with their phones or sideload apps is getting more and more difficult. The Play Store is riddled with more ads than useful content. Just try searching for something, and oftentimes more than half of your screen is ads.
I've been with Android since the start and I hate what Google is reducing it to. It pains me that the only viable alternative is Apple and I feel trapped.
We're all trapped. If you're not using either Android or iOS, you're pretty much screwed.
Technically, you can use one of the alternate phones, but the software support still leaves a lot to be desired. You can get most basic things working, but when it comes to crucial deal breaker apps like anything involving payments or banks, it gets a lot trickier. The world has become increasingly dependent on mobile phones, and if your phone can't handle train tickets, mail deliveries, restaurant reservations or pay your bills, it suddenly becomes very difficult to live in the 2020s.
More and more hardware is also depends on specific iOS or Android apps, and those apps may also require GAPPS or some OEM Android. At some point, it just isn't worth the hassle, and it becomes easier to pick either one of the toxic platforms everyone else is already using.
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Tried to rely fully on F-droid several years ago. That experiment went just fine until I needed up update the apps. Turns out, there wasn't a simple one button solution to that. I had to manually update each and every app one by one. Is it any better these days?
Unattended updates for everyone, 1.19 is here
https://f-droid.org/2024/02/01/twif.html
