Yeah, this is correct analogy, but much more complex problems than calculator. How much it is similar or not to humans way of thinking is completely irrelevant. And how much exact human type of thinking is necessary for any kind of problem solving or work is not something that we can really calculate. Considering that scientific breakthroughs, engineering innovations, medical stuff, complex math problems, programming, etc, do necessarily need human thinking or benefit from it as opposed to super advanced statistical meta-patterning calculator is wishful thinking. It is not based on any real knowledge we have. If you think it is wrong to give it our problems to solve, to give it our work, then it's a very understandable argument, but you should say exactly that. Instead this AI-hate hivemind tries to downplay it using dismissive braindead generic phrases like "NoPe ItS nOt ReAlLy UnDeRsTaNdInG aNyThInG". Okay, who tf asked? It solves the problem. People keep using it and become overpowered because of it. What is the benefit of trying to downplay its power like that? You're not really fighting it this way if you wanted to fight it.

I explicitly told it eleven times in ALL CAPS not to do this. I am a little worried about safety now.

Well then, that settles it, this should never have happened.

I don’t think putting complex technical info in front of non technical people like this is a good idea. When it comes to LLMs, they cannot do any work that you yourself do not understand.

That goes for math, coding, health advice, etc.

If you don’t understand then you don’t know what they’re doing wrong. They’re helpful tools but only in this context.

They could hire on a contractor and eschew all those costs.

I’ve done contract work before, this seems a good fit (defined problem plus budget, unknown timeline, clear requirements)

Not mad about an estimated usage bill of $8k per month.
Just hire a developer

First time I'm hearing them be related to vibe coding. They've been very respectable in the past, especially with their open-source CodeMirror.

I explicitly told it eleven times in ALL CAPS not to do this. I am a little worried about safety now.

This baffles me. How can anyone see AI function in the wild and not conclude 1) it has no conscience, 2) it's free to do whatever it's empowered to do if it wants and 3) at some level its behavior is pseudorandom and/or probabilistic? We're figuratively rolling dice with this stuff.

It’s incredible that it works, it’s incredible what just encoding language can do, but it is not a rational thinking system.

I don’t think most people care about the proverbial man behind the curtain, it talks like a human so it must be smart like a human.

it talks like a human so it must be smart like a human.

Yikes. Have those people... talked to other people before?

There was a backup, and it was restored. However, the LLM lied and said there wasn't at first. You can laugh all you want at it. I did. But maybe read the article so you aren't also lying.

Smart is a relative term lol.

A stupid human is still smart when compared to a jellyfish. That said, anybody who comes away from interactions with LLM's and thinks they're smart is only slightly more intelligent than a jellyfish.

Well the thing is, LLMs don't seem to really "solve" complex problems. They remember solutions they've seen before.

The example I saw was asking an LLM to solve "Towers of Hanoi" with 100 disks. This is a common recursive programming problem, takes quite a while for a human to write the answer to. The LLM manages this easily. But when asked to solve the same problem with with say 79 disks, or 41 disks, or some other oddball number, the LLM fails to solve the problem, despite it being simpler(!).

It can do pattern matching and provide solutions, but it's not able to come up with truly new solutions. It does not "think" in that way. LLMs are amazing data storage formats, but they're not truly 'intelligent' in the way most people think.

judgement

Yeah, it admitted to an error in judgement because the prompter clearly declared it so.

Generally LLMs will make whatever statement about what has happened that you want it to say. If you told it it went fantastic, it would agree. If you told it that it went terribly, it will parrot that sentiment back.

Which what seems to make it so dangerous for some people's mental health, a text generator that wants to agree with whatever you are saying, but doing so without verbatim copying so it gives an illusion of another thought process agreeing with them. Meanwhile, concurrent with your chat is another person starting from the exact same model getting a dialog that violently disagrees with the first person. It's an echo chamber.

What are they helpful tools for then? A study showed that they make experienced developers 19% slower.

Not according to the twitter thread. I went thru its thread, it’s a roller coaster of amateurism.

This only proves some of them can't solve all complex problems. I'm only claiming some of them can solve some complex problems. Not only by remembering exact solutions, but by remembering steps and actions used in building those solutions, generalizing, and transferring them to new problems. Anyone who tries using it for programming, will discover this very fast.

PS: Some of them were already used to solve problems and find patterns in data humans weren't able to get other ways before (particle research in CERN, bioinformatics, etc).

Just know your worth. You can do it cheaper!

But then how would he feel so special and smart about "doing it himself"???? Come on man, think of the rich fratboys!! They NEED to feel special and smart!!!

But like the whole 'vibe coding' message is the LLM knows all this stuff so you don't have to.

This isn't some "LLM can do some code completion/suggestions" it's "LLM is so magical you can be an idiot with no skills/training and still produce full stack solutions".

Yes, and they were all as smart at humans.

So mostly average but some absolute thickos too.

The [AI] safety stuff is more visceral to me after a weekend of vibe hacking,” Lemkin said. I explicitly told it eleven times in ALL CAPS not to do this. I am a little worried about safety now.

This sounds like something straight out of The Onion.