ChatGPT 'got absolutely wrecked' by Atari 2600 in beginner's chess match — OpenAI's newest model bamboozled by 1970s logic
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Okay, but could ChatGPT be used to vibe code a chess program that beats the Atari 2600?
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Prepare to be delighted. Full disclosure, my Atari isn't hooked up and also I don't have the Video Chess cart even if it was, so this was fetched from Google Images.
I'm annoyed the pieces are bottom adjusted...
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Did the author thinks ChatGPT is in fact an AGI? It's a chatbot. Why would it be good at chess? It's like saying an Atari 2600 running a dedicated chess program can beat Google Maps at chess.
Articles like this are good because it exposes the flaws with the ai and that it can't be trusted with complex multi step tasks.
Helps people see that think AI is close to a human that its not and its missing critical functionality
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While you guys suck at using tools, I'm making up for my lack of coding experience with ai, and successfully simulating the behavior of my aether (fuck you guys. Your search for a static ether is irrelevant to how mine behaves, and you shouldn't have dismissed everybody from Diogynes to Einstein), showing soliton-like structure emergence and particle-like interactions (with 1D relativistic constraints [I'm gonna need a fucking super computer to scale to 3D]). Anyways, whether you're wrong about your latest fun fact, cutting your thumb off trying to split a 2X4, or believing any idiot you talk to, this is user error, bro. Creating functional code for my simulator has saved me months, if not years of my life. Just setting up a gui was ridiculous for a novice like me, let alone translating walls of relativistic equation results (mainly stress-energy tensor) into code a computer can use. Side note: y'all don't give a fuck about facts. Come on. We're primates. Social status is the name of the game.
If you're writing a novel simulation for a non-trivial system, it might be best to learn to code so you can identify any issues in the simulation later. It's likely that LLMs do not have the information required to generate good code for this context.
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This made my day
Get your booty on the floor tonight.
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I don't think anyone is so stupid to believe current ai can solve everything.
And honestly, I didn't see any marketing material that would claim that.
The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, wanted to train AIs on your work emails and chat messages to create AI personalities you could send to the meetings you're paid to sit through while you drink Corona on the beach and receive a "summary" later.
The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, seems like a pretty stupid guy?
Yeah. Yeah, he really does. Really.. fuckin'.. dumb.
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Those are two different things.
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they are craming ai everywhere because nobody wants to miss the boat and because it plays well in the stock market.
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the people claiming it's awesome and that they are doing I don't know what with it, replacing people are mostly influencers and a few deluded people.
Ai can help people in many different roles today, so it makes sense to use it. Even in roles that is not particularly useful, it makes sense to prepare for when it is.
it makes sense to prepare for when it is.
Pfft, okay.
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That is more a failure of the person who made that decision than a failing of ChatBots, lol
Anyone who puts a chatbot anywhere is definitely a failure, yeah.
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If you're writing a novel simulation for a non-trivial system, it might be best to learn to code so you can identify any issues in the simulation later. It's likely that LLMs do not have the information required to generate good code for this context.
You're right. I'm not relying on this shit. It's a tool. Fucking up the gui is fine, but making any changes I don't research to my simulator core could fuck up my whole project. It's a tool that likes to cater to you, and you have to work around that - really, not too different from how much pressure you put on a grinder. You gotta learn how to work it. And, you're sentiment is correct. My lack of programming experience is a big hurdle I have to account for and make safeguards against. It would be a huge help if I started from the basics. But, I mean, I also can't rub two sticks together to heat my home. Doesn't mean I can't use this tool to produce reliable results.
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It's not that hard to beat dumb 6 year old who's only purpose is mine your privacy to sell you ads or product place some shit for you in future.
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You're right. I'm not relying on this shit. It's a tool. Fucking up the gui is fine, but making any changes I don't research to my simulator core could fuck up my whole project. It's a tool that likes to cater to you, and you have to work around that - really, not too different from how much pressure you put on a grinder. You gotta learn how to work it. And, you're sentiment is correct. My lack of programming experience is a big hurdle I have to account for and make safeguards against. It would be a huge help if I started from the basics. But, I mean, I also can't rub two sticks together to heat my home. Doesn't mean I can't use this tool to produce reliable results.
The tough guys and sigma males of yester-year used to say things like "If I were homeless, I would just bathe in the creek using the natural animal fats from the squirrel I caught for dinner as soap, win a new job by explaining my 21-days-in-7 workweek ethos, and buy a new home using my shares in my dad's furniture warehouse as collateral against the loan. It's not impossible to get back on your feet."
But with the advent of AI, which, actually, is supposed to do things for you, it's completely different now.
I also can't rub two sticks together to heat my home.
Dude, that fucking sucks. What is wrong with you?
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Tbf, the article should probably mention the fact that machine learning programs designed to play chess blow everything else out of the water.
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The tough guys and sigma males of yester-year used to say things like "If I were homeless, I would just bathe in the creek using the natural animal fats from the squirrel I caught for dinner as soap, win a new job by explaining my 21-days-in-7 workweek ethos, and buy a new home using my shares in my dad's furniture warehouse as collateral against the loan. It's not impossible to get back on your feet."
But with the advent of AI, which, actually, is supposed to do things for you, it's completely different now.
I also can't rub two sticks together to heat my home.
Dude, that fucking sucks. What is wrong with you?
You're so fucking silly. You gonna study cell theory to see how long you should keep vegetables in your fridge? Go home. Save science for people who understand things.
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The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, wanted to train AIs on your work emails and chat messages to create AI personalities you could send to the meetings you're paid to sit through while you drink Corona on the beach and receive a "summary" later.
The Zoom CEO, that is the video calling software, seems like a pretty stupid guy?
Yeah. Yeah, he really does. Really.. fuckin'.. dumb.
Same genius who forced all his own employees back into the office. An incomprehensibly stupid maneuver by an organization that literally owes its success to people working from home.
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Did the author thinks ChatGPT is in fact an AGI? It's a chatbot. Why would it be good at chess? It's like saying an Atari 2600 running a dedicated chess program can beat Google Maps at chess.
I agree with your general statement, but in theory since all ChatGPT does is regurgitate information back and a lot of chess is memorization of historical games and types, it might actually perform well. No, it can't think, but it can remember everything so at some point that might tip the results in it's favor.
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Not to help the AI companies, but why don't they program them to look up math programs and outsource chess to other programs when they're asked for that stuff? It's obvious they're shit at it, why do they answer anyway? It's because they're programmed by know-it-all programmers, isn't it.
If you pay for chatgpt you can connect it with wolfrenalpha and it's relays the maths to it
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Not to help the AI companies, but why don't they program them to look up math programs and outsource chess to other programs when they're asked for that stuff? It's obvious they're shit at it, why do they answer anyway? It's because they're programmed by know-it-all programmers, isn't it.
why don't they program them
AI models aren't programmed traditionally. They're generated by machine learning. Essentially the model is given test prompts and then given a rating on its answer. The model's calculations will be adjusted so that its answer to the test prompt will be closer to the expected answer. You repeat this a few billion times with a few billion prompts and you will have generated a model that scores very high on all test prompts.
Then someone asks it how many R's are in strawberry and it gets the wrong answer. The only way to fix this is to add that as a test prompt and redo the machine learning process which takes an enormous amount of time and computational power each time it's done, only for people to once again quickly find some kind of prompt it doesn't answer well.
There are already AI models that play chess incredibly well. Using machine learning to solve a complexe problem isn't the issue. It's trying to get one model to be good at absolutely everything.
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I agree with your general statement, but in theory since all ChatGPT does is regurgitate information back and a lot of chess is memorization of historical games and types, it might actually perform well. No, it can't think, but it can remember everything so at some point that might tip the results in it's favor.
Regurgitating an impression of, not regurgitating verbatim, that's the problem here.
Chess is 100% deterministic, so it falls flat.
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You are both completely over estimating the intelligence level of "anyone" and not living in the same AI marketed universe as the rest of us. People are stupid. Really stupid.
I don't understand why this is so important, marketing is all about exaggerating, why expect something different here.
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Okay, but could ChatGPT be used to vibe code a chess program that beats the Atari 2600?
no.
the answer is always, no.
