AI chatbots are becoming popular alternatives to therapy. But they may worsen mental health crises, experts warn
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Chatexperts demand you to bring their money to them, not to some almost free LLM alternatives that in many cases would be quite effective.
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Well obviously, it would be pretty bad if a therapist was triggering psychosis in some users
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I believe mental health therapy itself a scam!
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Chatexperts demand you to bring their money to them, not to some almost free LLM alternatives that in many cases would be quite effective.
Quite effective at what? Because it certainly isn’t therapy.
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I believe mental health therapy itself a scam!
Why? Cause many mental health problems could be solved by not having money related stress?
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Quite effective at what? Because it certainly isn’t therapy.
Not all "therapists" know what they're doing, not all people need actual "therapy", for some a little chat will suffice. The world is a complicated thing. Only one thing is almost always true -- never believe anyone who talks about competitors.
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Not all "therapists" know what they're doing, not all people need actual "therapy", for some a little chat will suffice. The world is a complicated thing. Only one thing is almost always true -- never believe anyone who talks about competitors.
If all you need is a chat, then go find someone flesh and blood to talk to.
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Why? Cause many mental health problems could be solved by not having money related stress?
in a deeper sense just understanding reality and purpose of life solves all mental health issues. According to buddha the root cause of suffering and stress is dukkha, samudaya, nirodha and magga.
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If all you need is a chat, then go find someone flesh and blood to talk to.
If you just need to get to point A, then go find some flesh and blood transportation system: a horse, for example.
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in a deeper sense just understanding reality and purpose of life solves all mental health issues. According to buddha the root cause of suffering and stress is dukkha, samudaya, nirodha and magga.
root cause of suffering and stress is [...] magga
Yeah? I think most people agree that MAGA causes a lot of suffering and stress.
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in a deeper sense just understanding reality and purpose of life solves all mental health issues. According to buddha the root cause of suffering and stress is dukkha, samudaya, nirodha and magga.
So it’s not that my monthly outgoings for necessities (Mortgage, food shop, gas and electric), versus wages, are rapidly becoming the same figure, it’s that I don’t understand my purpose life that is making me stressed/depressed? What a load of bollocks.
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One is 25 €/month and on-demand, and the other costs more than I can afford and would probably be at inconvenient times anyway. Ideal? No, probably not. But it’s better than nothing.
I’m not really looking for advice either - just someone to talk to who at least pretends to be interested.
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Not all "therapists" know what they're doing, not all people need actual "therapy", for some a little chat will suffice. The world is a complicated thing. Only one thing is almost always true -- never believe anyone who talks about competitors.
You might as well talk to yourself than a chatbot, or read some stories.
Having an overly agreeable puree of language dispensed to you in place of actual conversation with you is neither healthy nor meaningfully engaging.
Conversation is valuable because it is an actual external perspective. LLM chatbots are designed as echo chambers. They have their uses but conversation for the sake of conversation is not one of them.
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One is 25 €/month and on-demand, and the other costs more than I can afford and would probably be at inconvenient times anyway. Ideal? No, probably not. But it’s better than nothing.
I’m not really looking for advice either - just someone to talk to who at least pretends to be interested.
It's bad precisely because the bot always agree with you, they are all made like that
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Quite effective at what? Because it certainly isn’t therapy.
The AI chatbots are extremely effective therapists. However, they're only graded on how long they can keep people talking.
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Therapy is expensive in US. Even with insurance 40 bucks a session a week adds up fast.
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It's bad precisely because the bot always agree with you, they are all made like that
It doesn’t always agree with me. We’re in an impasse about mentoring. I keep telling it I’m not interested, it keeps telling me that given my traits i will be but I’m just not ready yet.
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One is 25 €/month and on-demand, and the other costs more than I can afford and would probably be at inconvenient times anyway. Ideal? No, probably not. But it’s better than nothing.
I’m not really looking for advice either - just someone to talk to who at least pretends to be interested.
It's not better than nothing - it's worse than nothing. It is actively harmful, feeding psychosis, and your chat history will be sold at some point.
Try this, instead of asking "I am thinking xyz", ask " my friend thinks xyz, and I believe it to be wrong". And marvel at how it will tell you the exact opposite.
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This is sad to me. When I was younger and would get lonely enough I'd go to a bar and talk to strangers. When I was a little bit older I would just post on social. Neither of those things are particularly useful or productive but they at least involved other people. I'm glad I wasn't being targeted with ads about how great AI is and reading articles about its effectiveness (nyt [i think] had one in the last few days.) I'm an introverted person and it used to take a good bit of discomfort to get me out and talking to people. If I had something that provided a good enough simulacrum of social contact without the anxieties and weirdness that can come from talking to strangers I think my life would be very different. It's important to spread awareness of the dangers of robosexuality
