It's still a way out but Ladybird might be the alternative going forward. However, they've stated that it's only going to support linux/mac with a windows version in the "eventually" column which makes it kinda hard to sell to people.

RIP the old Opera before they went Chromium.

So the profit from the for-profit is passed up to the non-profit.

This is a really common organisational structure and not bizarre.

There's loads of worthy criticisms to make of mozilla but this is not one of them.

Non-profit isn't the same as not-for-profit

Take American Red Cross

They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

The red cross fucking sucks too

Arrived in the Idiocracy?

It's not a new updated it's been that way for years.

They in the last year or so added built in vertical tabs , much better hardware support for decoding video on Linux, continue to support manifest v2 and high quality ad blocking. Have increased performance and memory usage.

In the last 7 years performance is night and day different as is multiple process performance and switched away from unmaintainable old broken addon system.

They also created one of the premiere programming languages which is making in roads in the Linux kernel.

Abominable intelligence

It's also an example of a smaller company trying fight a mega Corp with infinite money, gained via unethical means.

People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do? Charge for the browser or ads? There's literally no other alternative and I don't know what the solution is.

What I do know is that once FF dies and chrome fully owns the web we are well and truly fucked.

Honesty it might already be too late.

That is disingenuous.

People underestimate the cost of building a fucking browser, it's not the equivalent of maintaining a array sort app on fucking github.

Some random dude promising to "donate from time to time" is not a valid business model.

I wish they'd strip down and just focus on the browser, but fund it HOW? Ads? Subscription?

The reason a lot of companies are doing AI shit is essentially RD shooting in the dark, hoping something will pan out.

You have to do this if you are a tech company and want to survive in the future.

It's fun to meme on ai and but that shit is coming and pretending it doesn't exist or has no value simply isn't true.

So I ask everyone again, what business model exists for a software company to make money without ads or charging a monthly subscription.

Calling whatever you like "profit" cant really be rebutted, it's subjective semantics.

Yes CEOs are paid lots of money. Why would mozilla choose to over pay staff?

a nonprofit owned by a for profit company

It's the other way around, the foundation owns the corporation.

Still feels like the corporation is the one making decisions though.

That's basically what librewolf, waterfox, and a whole bunch of others are. In the same way manjaro and endeavor etc. are opinionated arch installs with spackling, those browsers are opinionated settings-already-selected versions of firefox.