Palantir may be engaging in a coordinated disinformation campaign by astroturfing these news-related subreddits: r/world, r/newsletter, r/investinq, and r/tech_news
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Reddit's been compromised for a while.
We really should be talking about Rampart.
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Versions of them are here already. Their focus right now is to:
- start violence at protests, especially around LA and target cities like NY, Seattle, Chicago, etc.
- seed doubt in anything related to the republican agendas or what they have done. Usually starts with, "I hate trump like the rest of us, but...." or something like that.
- downvote the shit out of people that call anything like the above out. They'll come in later, one by one, to do this.
They usually congregate over the weekend and during or right after major events (like the protest). Watch for them this weekend or stay away from Lemmy. If you watch for it, downvote them and upvote the people fighting them, but most of all, take what everyone says with a grain of salt.
and reddit also wont ban these subs.
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Setting aside the veritable TITAN-loads of shady shit Palsntir is up to, it's also worth noting that Reddit's policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model, so I'd assume that not only is Palantir using it for that purpose, but that they are far from alone.
half of its already bots, so im not surprised and it usually the propaganda bots keeping up the engagements. Also i heard reddit wants to make thier post/account history mroe private so its harder to discern a bot.
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He probably already bought it through private equity.
spez might sell it to musk instead.
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Yeah, its like they named themselves intentionally.
The software data-collection company Palantir Technologies was named by its founder, Peter Thiel, after Tolkien's seeing stones.
he also named his other companies, various LOTR themes too. anduril, lembas,,,etc.
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Anything Peter Thiel is involved in you know it is going to be fucking evil on some level.
apparently he is known to have his own island of f---boys. and his boy toy bf last year got mysteriously defenestrated in florida(they alleged suicide, but it seems highly suspicious especially the bf was complainig about the anti-lgbtq+ stance of thiel)
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It's really, really obvious, too. I don't have a reddit account anymore, but I occasionally scroll through popular, and r/world is such blatant propaganda that it makes r/conservative look reasonable. Like, damn guys, at least try to make it believable.
r/conservatives is almost always in the front page now, reddit pushes it there.
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Governments get really intense creating propaganda when they goto war. So if they're going to war with Iran, expect lots of propaganda.
remember worldnews suddenly shifted to israeli control right as the war started.
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10 years at least.
at the most is when turmp came to power 1st term, suddenly culture war propaganda has cause so many people oversensitivity over race, people were getting banned for even mentioning race in the politics subs.
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Palantir is pretty awful. I knew a guy who took a job there, a bunch of years ago. When he said where he was going, I asked "But what if they work on something really shitty? Like spying on people?". He was like, "Meh", with a big shrug.
He was friendly and kind to the people around him, but I guess he just didn't care about anyone he didn't know personally right now.
I think it can be difficult to relate to such abstract concepts and consequences that you don't feel directly. After all, it'd be much easier to press on a button that'd kill 10 000 people living 10 000 km away from you than to stab one person to death. Out of sight out of mind.
My point being that I don't think he's indifferent to people that he doesn't know, he's simply not able to process all the ramifications of this particular thing. The effects of data collection and manipulation is quite subtle, after all, like the frog in the slow burning pot
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I've heard that's how a lot of wealthy people feel. They want the absolute best for people in their family, and that's about it.
Yup. I've worked in tech for nearly 20 years. Most people who work in tech don't give a shit about the ethics of what they do or where they work if the money is good.
This is a screenshot from one of the discords of current and/or previous coworkers, but the sentiment is everywhere
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My take: removing API access and banning mods who protested saying that this would centralize tooling (removing 3p access), plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as "violent" are clear indicators that they are disinformation sympathetic, despite the primarily "left wing" seeming content that remains. Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation, as can be seen in minutes of browsing.
plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent”
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the new rule to remove and/or ban any comment or person who calls for violence against specific people? I wouldn't really say that's "disinformation sympathetic". Even if it's what you originally said, how does that have anything to do with "providing a platform for the spread of disinformation"?
Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation
Promoted content as in ads?
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plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent”
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the new rule to remove and/or ban any comment or person who calls for violence against specific people? I wouldn't really say that's "disinformation sympathetic". Even if it's what you originally said, how does that have anything to do with "providing a platform for the spread of disinformation"?
Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation
Promoted content as in ads?
Officially yes. I got banned for saying "Musk fuming is violently toxic", site wide and permanently from 6 subreddits. Others got banned just saying "Luigi is innocent". Try it out. That reads more like quashing free speech to me.
Disinformation in the ads, yes. Also front page stuff making past moderation. Today in r/science I saw "Democrats are less tolerant of Republicans than vice versa" and a load of unscientific hogwash saying Republicans are not as intolerant as Democrats think. Go find it yourself if you don't believe me.
That seems like a platform of disinformation to me.
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Vibes. Got it.
I mean, usually people don't say "I am disinforming you, hah!". We can only rely on that weird feeling that something isn't right. That's what makes it so pernicious compared to plain good faith misinformation.
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According to the comments r/europe_sub and r/canada_sub might be involved as well.
Palantir may be engaging in a coordinated disinformation campaign by astroturfing these news-related subreddits: r/world, r/newsletter, r/investinq, and r/tech_news - r/SubredditDrama
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Palantir just partnered with TeleTracking. For anyone outside of health care, TeleTracking is a health tech company that's been on decline for awhile.
Why is this relevant, you may ask? TeleTracking still has a lot of clients, many of which are smaller hospitals grandfathered into older, cheaper contracts. If you go to a hospital that uses TeleTracking, Palantir now has all your patient health information.
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remember worldnews suddenly shifted to israeli control right as the war started.
The number of pro-Isreal bots is ridiculous.
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I mean, usually people don't say "I am disinforming you, hah!". We can only rely on that weird feeling that something isn't right. That's what makes it so pernicious compared to plain good faith misinformation.
I'm not sure what you interpret from the words "policy changes" but they dont usually refer to a weird feeling.
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I think it can be difficult to relate to such abstract concepts and consequences that you don't feel directly. After all, it'd be much easier to press on a button that'd kill 10 000 people living 10 000 km away from you than to stab one person to death. Out of sight out of mind.
My point being that I don't think he's indifferent to people that he doesn't know, he's simply not able to process all the ramifications of this particular thing. The effects of data collection and manipulation is quite subtle, after all, like the frog in the slow burning pot
You just described that he is in fact indifferent.
It is not like we don't have easy to access knowledge about authoritarianism and how it plays out. It is not like we lack information about the criminal and murderous stuff Palantir is involved. FFS the company is owned by a guy who lets himself be "refreshened" with the blood of younger people.
Anyone who does a minimal level of due diligence in looking up his employer knows what kind of company it is. And it is an intelligence company, so the type of people working there must bring a higher level of research and diligence skills.
They know exactly what they are doing and they are fine with it.
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Including Lemmy. Especially Lemmy, since it's so easy to create accounts on different instances, or even host your own.
Very true, but due to its size, it doesn't really make sense to focus on it.
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Palantir just partnered with TeleTracking. For anyone outside of health care, TeleTracking is a health tech company that's been on decline for awhile.
Why is this relevant, you may ask? TeleTracking still has a lot of clients, many of which are smaller hospitals grandfathered into older, cheaper contracts. If you go to a hospital that uses TeleTracking, Palantir now has all your patient health information.
To add to this.
Retirement homes utilize community activity software. Sometimes this will link to health systems like point click care.
When this software company starts wanting you to upload resident profiles so their ai can populate interests? Yeaaaaah they found a work around for your PPI is what that is.
If it wasn't a rush for data already it reallllly is now.
Scary.
