Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn't change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.

This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.

I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn't murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

Murder.

Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

This isn't university, you can talk normal here.

lol what. yeah the parties that don't have the nukes do retaliate when the parties with the nukes are the aggressors. Iran didn't start a war. Palestine isn't even involved in a war that's just genocide.

You are clearly seeing having nukes has no effect on retaliation, so why would you insist on it?

The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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It's not the people that make decisions or even matter.
It is the capitalist US/UK governments that have decided to help their nazi friends.
That's what matters

Are you telling me this isn't a wizard school?! Wait

Not just the military. I found out Palantir had a contract with my own city to develop and test their predictive policing technology until 2018.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predictive-policing-tool-new-orleans-nopd

The city banned predictive policing and facial recognition tech, then quietly lifted the ban and replaced it with a very concerning ordinance in 2022.
https://thelensnola.org/2022/02/17/mayor-cantrell-moves-to-reverse-bans-on-facial-recognition-predictive-policing-and-other-surveillance-tech/

Then it came out that the city wasn't even following the rules they had created in the sketchy ordinance.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/19/live-facial-recognition-police-new-orleans/

The private surveillance company using the facial recognition tech (which was created during the time Palantir was still under contract with the city, but is allegedly totally unrelated to Palantir ) couldn't keep providing the real time facial recognition tracking to city police bc WaPo exposed they were violating the ordinance. However, since it's only a city ordinance and they're a private company, they can still provide it to literally anyone else in the city (state police, federal agents, ICE, military).

They've already been doing a lot of shady shit to American citizens, and it's naive to just trust that they won't eventually start using these kinds of AI drone weapons on American soil.

Iran has the right to defend themselves and israel has proven again that Iran is in need of this defense.

I'm sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd's

It's civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

You're part of the problem.

In a democracy, the people get the government that they deserve, at least the near-majority of them do.

And it's on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

Okay. Don’t use your reason if you’d prefer not to. It does make me wonder though:

Do you think the killing of the civilian scientists was wrong because they were civilian scientists, or because they were ostensibly working on an energy program?

Because as I said, I’m not claiming the murders were justified, just that we ought to be honest about the why.

There are plenty making the argument that Iran needs a nuclear weapons program to prevent exactly these types of attacks. That is intellectually honest. I’m not sure where I fall on that argument, I’d rather no one have nuclear weapons (but obviously that’s not going to happen).

The difference between 5% and 60% enrichment is pretty huge. And the research and effort required to get there is neither cheap nor easy. If what they’re after is nuclear energy, there is absolutely no reason to continue risking the ire of the international community and the repeated attacks by Israel. They’ve had energy-level uranium for a very long time already.