Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon
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yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.
should?
Wait what
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They are targeting anyone with a degree in nuclear physics. Someone posted that his colleague was killed and they had nothing to do with the enrichment program. It's murder.
So no proof then? Complete bullshit, man
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should?
Wait what
yes. the fact that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons and Israel and the US still went after then is proof that they should have had nuclear weapons. because guess what would happen if they did. Israel would have stayed the fuck away.
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You literally just posted paragraphs of bold text with wild and generalizing claims about Israel and Israeli people. Someone needs to be ashamed of themselves here, and maybe exercise a little self awareness?
I am clearly talking about the Ayatollah regime's officially stated goals, not the Iranian people. I'm also mentioning the opportunity for Iranians to have a better government. It's obviously up to the Iranian people if they want a better government, I think we all know at this point that regime change has to come from within a country.
As someone on the left
Since you're someone on the left, you you seemed to have picked up the nasty habit of feeling entitled to speak on behalf of other people. If you're not Iranian please don't act like you know what's best for them. That's a very "white man's burden" mentality that's become prevalent in the left.
The oppressive authoritarian regime that's ruling over Iran has been weakened. It's up to the Iranian people what they want to do next. It's not up to me or you.
The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn't change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.
This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.
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This isn't how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.
The alternative is “drop bombs”.
Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.
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What is the endgame here? They certainly can't be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
"The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"
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What is the endgame here? They certainly can't be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
Well, I think Israel are horrible villains here, but I also think Iran might be a lot better off without the theocratic regime and with disarmed warfare capabilities. In a more ideal world, Iran would de-escelate and make amiccable relations with the west to avoid any future conflicts. In the world we actually live in, Israel is probably hankering for a hunk of that pie and will expand their borders.
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Narnia? What an odd name. What did they kill them with, a lion or a wardrobe?
I think the name schemes were themed around fantasy fiction because that is what the AI produces and therefor its outputs need to be vetted properly.
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Surely this will work wonders, they'll never recover from this. Also they won't have any incentive, because why would you even consider building a bomb in such a friendly environment? Why would there need to be an axis of resistance, let them surrender unconditionally like Trump suggested, because clearly Israel and the US are to be trusted. If only these damned Iranians remained at the negotiating table while we bombed the shit out of them unprovoked. I guess they don't want peace. /s
And don't forget the US will again get to decide to arbitrarily discard any nuclear agreements, which is of course another great incentive for Iran to not start a military nuclear program.
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Donald Trump is an incompetent idiot. Doesn't mean he's not a threat to anyone.
He's perfectly competent, just not for you.
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One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?
That is a good point. I think you're right that being raised in an entitled environment by a socipathic parent brings out the worst in people. It also selects for the worst child being the one who wins the fight to take over the business.
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"Seems that your mind is made up"
I show facts and know that the US/UK were/are supporters of fascism since it's the ultimate state of capitalism.
No need to elaborate, maybe look some things up since you clearly don't know much about it.And "Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military."
Sigh, you even misinterpreted that and ignored the punctuation.I'm not a kindergarten teacher so not wasting more time on you,
know that the US/UK were/are supporters
The US and UK are populist democracies, as such both had sizeable minority support for Fascism in the years before WWII - I believe it was Churchill who was leaning heavily towards it as a "great form of government to consolidate popular support." But, those movements ultimately did not gain full control and once war was declared on the Fascists, it had a strong damper effect on support for it in the US/UK.
Nobody is harmless, and no nation is made up of people who agree 100% on all questions. Fascism attempts to manufacture the appearance that lie is true, which is one of it's many drawbacks: allergies to reality.
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I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
"The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"
Or the evangelicals in Trump's ear are trying to bring about the end of the world to kick off the rapture or some goofy ass psycho shit.
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know that the US/UK were/are supporters
The US and UK are populist democracies, as such both had sizeable minority support for Fascism in the years before WWII - I believe it was Churchill who was leaning heavily towards it as a "great form of government to consolidate popular support." But, those movements ultimately did not gain full control and once war was declared on the Fascists, it had a strong damper effect on support for it in the US/UK.
Nobody is harmless, and no nation is made up of people who agree 100% on all questions. Fascism attempts to manufacture the appearance that lie is true, which is one of it's many drawbacks: allergies to reality.
It's not the people that make decisions or even matter.
It is the capitalist US/UK governments that have decided to help their nazi friends.
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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
Yes I am appalled by this totally believable and not at all suspiciously timed article by TIMES OF ISRAEL
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yes. the fact that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons and Israel and the US still went after then is proof that they should have had nuclear weapons. because guess what would happen if they did. Israel would have stayed the fuck away.
Clearly not working, Israel and the us have them nukes and that's not stopping Iran and Palestine from retaliation
Or do you see them staying the fuck away?
Because I certainly don't
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Or the evangelicals in Trump's ear are trying to bring about the end of the world to kick off the rapture or some goofy ass psycho shit.
Yes, and he wants to drop a nuke so bad he cant STAND it
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No, Iran is definitely not on any sort of moral high ground. They and Israel are so deep underground they're communicating with the mole people.
I think you stronly underestimate how bad genocide is. Are you a history buff? In the 20th century there was this guy called Hitler. He became the personification of evil because he committed genocide. That's where Israel is at. Iran, as far as I know, is not committing a genocide.
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I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
"The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"
Also, wasn't Trump the reason the largest non-nuclear bomb in the USA arsenal was first used in combat? The bomb that had never been deployed in the almost 15 years since it's creation specifically because the US military thought it would create too many civilian casualties?
The same Trump that allegedly wanted to nuke hurricanes to disrupt them before they hit the US's coast?
The dude just wants to play with the shiny toys and see things go "boom". He has literally stated to his own biographer that
When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different."
I suppose it suits him just fine that Israel is now flirting with open warfare with their neighbors.
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10 assassinations of relatively innocent people simultaneously. Straight out of Walter white’s playbook when he went full villain.
They aren't innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don't support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can't get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.
