Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon
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Under the rules of war, no. The rules of war does not consider civilians casualties a crime if they happen while targeting military or military support, like weapons manufacturing.
If it were, then you could just fire missiles at your enemies from the tops of apartment buildings and they couldn't do anything about it. Yeah Hamas did do that and did make claims of war crimes whenever they got hit, but not actually a war crime. Because if it were it would encourage every military in the world to use human shields and every war becomes as horrible as the war in Gaza.
What did we say about based takes on Lemmy?
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Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?
Where did it say that? Are you creating outrage just for the sake of outrage? What's the benefit?
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No Iran definitely has the moral high ground, by a fair margin. Israel has been committing a genocide, as well as running a full on apartheid ethnostate, if you didn't know. But even if we ignore that, the IAEA as wel as the American intelligence community (think NSA, CIA and so on) have both assessed, as recently as a week ago, that Iran has not attempted to build nuclear weapons since 2003. Iran is being bombed, illegally, based on a lie. That's high ground enough for me.
No, Iran is definitely not on any sort of moral high ground. They and Israel are so deep underground they're communicating with the mole people.
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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
What is the endgame here? They certainly can't be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
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I mean, if I was a key part of the nuclear program of the US, and there was another country specifically targeting the US's nuclear program, I would assume myself to be a target.
Sure, but you can't take unilateral security steps, because, well, you know, YOU ARE PART OF A NUCLEAR PROGRAM
You need to submit to the security policies already in place
At most, you can give suggestions, etc, but the final word is with the person in charge of security. That's probably the deal you signed on for.
And can't complain, that's why you signed the NDA, voluntarily of course
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So why is Vladimir Putin not in Hague?
Russia is on the security council. As far as we understand, they are part of the international organization that makes the rules
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I believe they were sarcastic, their name is listed as worldsdumbestman
Yeah, if it wasn't only because people in here love that type of "sarcastic" comments
I mean 26 upvotes for a clearly deranged idea?
Jeezus
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yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.
should?
Wait what
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They are targeting anyone with a degree in nuclear physics. Someone posted that his colleague was killed and they had nothing to do with the enrichment program. It's murder.
So no proof then? Complete bullshit, man
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should?
Wait what
yes. the fact that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons and Israel and the US still went after then is proof that they should have had nuclear weapons. because guess what would happen if they did. Israel would have stayed the fuck away.
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You literally just posted paragraphs of bold text with wild and generalizing claims about Israel and Israeli people. Someone needs to be ashamed of themselves here, and maybe exercise a little self awareness?
I am clearly talking about the Ayatollah regime's officially stated goals, not the Iranian people. I'm also mentioning the opportunity for Iranians to have a better government. It's obviously up to the Iranian people if they want a better government, I think we all know at this point that regime change has to come from within a country.
As someone on the left
Since you're someone on the left, you you seemed to have picked up the nasty habit of feeling entitled to speak on behalf of other people. If you're not Iranian please don't act like you know what's best for them. That's a very "white man's burden" mentality that's become prevalent in the left.
The oppressive authoritarian regime that's ruling over Iran has been weakened. It's up to the Iranian people what they want to do next. It's not up to me or you.
The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn't change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.
This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.
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This isn't how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.
The alternative is “drop bombs”.
Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.
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What is the endgame here? They certainly can't be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
"The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"
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What is the endgame here? They certainly can't be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
Well, I think Israel are horrible villains here, but I also think Iran might be a lot better off without the theocratic regime and with disarmed warfare capabilities. In a more ideal world, Iran would de-escelate and make amiccable relations with the west to avoid any future conflicts. In the world we actually live in, Israel is probably hankering for a hunk of that pie and will expand their borders.
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Narnia? What an odd name. What did they kill them with, a lion or a wardrobe?
I think the name schemes were themed around fantasy fiction because that is what the AI produces and therefor its outputs need to be vetted properly.
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Surely this will work wonders, they'll never recover from this. Also they won't have any incentive, because why would you even consider building a bomb in such a friendly environment? Why would there need to be an axis of resistance, let them surrender unconditionally like Trump suggested, because clearly Israel and the US are to be trusted. If only these damned Iranians remained at the negotiating table while we bombed the shit out of them unprovoked. I guess they don't want peace. /s
And don't forget the US will again get to decide to arbitrarily discard any nuclear agreements, which is of course another great incentive for Iran to not start a military nuclear program.
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Donald Trump is an incompetent idiot. Doesn't mean he's not a threat to anyone.
He's perfectly competent, just not for you.
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One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?
That is a good point. I think you're right that being raised in an entitled environment by a socipathic parent brings out the worst in people. It also selects for the worst child being the one who wins the fight to take over the business.
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"Seems that your mind is made up"
I show facts and know that the US/UK were/are supporters of fascism since it's the ultimate state of capitalism.
No need to elaborate, maybe look some things up since you clearly don't know much about it.And "Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military."
Sigh, you even misinterpreted that and ignored the punctuation.I'm not a kindergarten teacher so not wasting more time on you,
know that the US/UK were/are supporters
The US and UK are populist democracies, as such both had sizeable minority support for Fascism in the years before WWII - I believe it was Churchill who was leaning heavily towards it as a "great form of government to consolidate popular support." But, those movements ultimately did not gain full control and once war was declared on the Fascists, it had a strong damper effect on support for it in the US/UK.
Nobody is harmless, and no nation is made up of people who agree 100% on all questions. Fascism attempts to manufacture the appearance that lie is true, which is one of it's many drawbacks: allergies to reality.
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I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
"The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"
Or the evangelicals in Trump's ear are trying to bring about the end of the world to kick off the rapture or some goofy ass psycho shit.
