Microsoft Came to Bargain: Use OneDrive for Device Backup, Opt into Loyalty Program and Use Their Products Till You Earn 1000 Points or Pay $30 and They Might Give You Security Updates till Oct 2026.
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This stinks of their enterprise practices. They are masters of creating extremely confusing plans for pricing that involve bundling, discounts for various combinations, etc. In the end, you get a fat ass bill at the end of every month. When you ask them to explain it, they will say that this component was generated by one team, another by a different...
You will never get a straight answer and if you do, it will take weeks. By then you have another bill and you get to start all over.
I am so over Microsoft and their bullshit. I don't use any of their shit at home and I actively remove anything I can of theirs at work. Punting Defender out of our environment was my best day ever.
What did you replace Defender with?
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This stinks of their enterprise practices. They are masters of creating extremely confusing plans for pricing that involve bundling, discounts for various combinations, etc. In the end, you get a fat ass bill at the end of every month. When you ask them to explain it, they will say that this component was generated by one team, another by a different...
You will never get a straight answer and if you do, it will take weeks. By then you have another bill and you get to start all over.
I am so over Microsoft and their bullshit. I don't use any of their shit at home and I actively remove anything I can of theirs at work. Punting Defender out of our environment was my best day ever.
So all your users are working on Macs or Linux? That's an impressive accomplishment for an enterprise scale work environment.
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What did you replace Defender with?
SentinelOne
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When I see stories like this, what annoys me the most, is that people are still dumb enough to use Microsoft, and proprietary software in general.
Calling people dumb for using an insanely popular product is pretty unnecessary. Some grandma just playing solitaire on her old PC that she uses to pay bills and whatnot on and you walk by, "you dumbass, use Linux instead!"
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So windows 10 isn't EOL'd in October 2025 after all.
They've always said that extended support would be available. It's like this with every single enterprise product. Red Hat Linux, VMware, etc all do it.
I'm all for circle jerking against Microsoft, they fucking suck. But this particular example is just such a dumb thing to get on a soapbox about. Businesses can't be expected to indefinitely support a piece of technology for free. Some Linux distros can do it because people volunteer their time and skills to do so. But that isn't feasible for a business to just pay dozens of developers to continuously work on a product that isn't actively pulling in revenue.
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So all your users are working on Macs or Linux? That's an impressive accomplishment for an enterprise scale work environment.
It was easier for our 500+ employees when our CFO pointed out that its either switch to Linux and have a learning curve or see some of your coworkers, maybe even yourself be laid off.
We actually saved so much money dumping Microsoft products that we were able to hire tech ambassadors to help the older folks get setup with the new software. -
It was easier for our 500+ employees when our CFO pointed out that its either switch to Linux and have a learning curve or see some of your coworkers, maybe even yourself be laid off.
We actually saved so much money dumping Microsoft products that we were able to hire tech ambassadors to help the older folks get setup with the new software.I love this so much. We use Macs at work but there's absolutely no reason we couldn't just use Linux. 60% (guestimated) of the work, across all departments, is done through the browser and the other 40% is software development. I'd much rather have more smart people around than a $2000 locked down laptop.
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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
- Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).
Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August
no thanks microsoft
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Holding security updates hostage is a sicko business strategy. I hope the EU sues them for it.
Windows has always* done this and so do many others. I very much doubt that the EU would fine Microsoft for it. Since when was extended support against EU regulation?
For example companies like redhat do the same thing for end of life software: https://access.redhat.com/articles/rhel-eus
I'm not familiar with Suse but it looks like they pretty much do the same thing: https://www.suse.com/products/long-term-service-pack-support/.
Ubuntu too: https://ubuntu.com/security/esm
Of course IBM: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-security-extended-support
*I'm unsure if they have allowed regular consumers to buy extended support before, since consumers mostly don't give a shit about updates. This is at least the first time you could get extended support through any other means than paying for it.
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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
- Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).
Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August
Microsoft can die in a fire
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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
- Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).
Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August
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FTLoG
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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
- Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).
Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August
Getting a discount to hand over your data into their cloud so they can train their AIs on it? And hold you hostage in case you dare to switch the OS?
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Calling people dumb for using an insanely popular product is pretty unnecessary. Some grandma just playing solitaire on her old PC that she uses to pay bills and whatnot on and you walk by, "you dumbass, use Linux instead!"
Yes, because some grandma is exactly the kind of people I meant.
And not her stupid children or friends who might have helped her with a Linux system instead.
/sMy guess is you are just butthurt, because you are part of the problem, and not the solution.
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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
- Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).
Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August
I wish to compliment Microsoft on them accurately prophesying that Windows 10 would be my last windows.
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- Reads this on his iOS phone
- While playing modern games on fedora workstation 42
- While all my backups and containers run on a synology nas
- with a literal blank 2nd hard drive that used to have windows 10 on it but now has nothing
- while his computer illiterate wife uses her hp laptop just fine with linux
Ya… Go f yourself Microsoft. You used to be the cool kid in town. Now you’re trash.
I'm sorry to disagree. I've been using Microsoft crap since the days where you had to free up memory in config.sys to load Novell Netware drivers, and never has Microsoft been the cool kid in town. It was always the fat bastard bully kid that would beat and extort the other kids.
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Getting a discount to hand over your data into their cloud so they can train their AIs on it? And hold you hostage in case you dare to switch the OS?
Classic enshittification, they're stealing from Google this should be copyright stricken.
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Getting a discount to hand over your data into their cloud so they can train their AIs on it? And hold you hostage in case you dare to switch the OS?
technically you don't have to put any data in there we just have to have it enabled
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Holding security updates hostage is a sicko business strategy. I hope the EU sues them for it.
they're deprecating the product, this is pretty normal
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I'm sorry to disagree. I've been using Microsoft crap since the days where you had to free up memory in config.sys to load Novell Netware drivers, and never has Microsoft been the cool kid in town. It was always the fat bastard bully kid that would beat and extort the other kids.
LOL
I’ve been using it that long too, and I suppose you’re right.
