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  • I used to like and look up to SpaceX for the interesting stuff that they build,

    but nowadays i don't care anymore. The company can fail for all i care. Musk spoiled it.

    The tipping point, for me personally, was when Musk seriously threatened to slash public spending in February this year. It shows a clear disrespect to the people, and frankly, a sociopathic attitude.

    Musk had everything, lots of money, lots of fame, lots of influence, but he threw it all away when he decided to threaten the wellbeing and lifelyhood of a lot of people just so that rich assholes can make an extra buck through tax cuts.

    I wonder what continues to motivate the uber rich to seek more wealth-you simply can't buy any more tangible amount of happiness through material or influence after a point.

  • Foreign investment was because of cheap labor and companies being subsidized by the communist government......

    BYD might make a better car than Tesla, but saying that a Chinese company isn't "under the control of Xi Jinping", the guy who crushed Hong Kong for having too much independence and wants to do the same with Taiwan, is laughable.

    but saying that a Chinese company isn't "under the control of Xi Jinping", the guy who crushed Hong Kong for having too much independence and wants to do the same with Taiwan, is laughable.

    Just take that sentence at face value and consider the ridiculousness of actually believing the guy alone has that amount of crushing power.

    You're just regurgitating unfounded US propaganda which, this being Lemmy, is very unfortunate to see.

  • That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does.

    If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around.

    *Puts on Rammstein - Amerika

  • I can't find anything on such a tax?

    I feel like there has been an uptick in pro oil bots in the past week. Oil is a pretty ugly business too? What is wrong with you people.

    Piip piip boop boop.

    Evil nordic bot coming at you.

  • I suspect you know this, and your post is sarcastic. But just in case:

    Most cars have their own embedded SIMs nowadays. They're already connected. You can't disconnect them.

    No, I haven't bought a new car in many many years.

    That's absolutely unacceptable. I would have the dashboard pulled out in minutes. Wherever the modem is, it wouldn't be there for long.

  • Chinese electric cars are just better. BYD is what Tesla wanted to be, but actually fulfills its promises. Plus it isn't ran by a nazi dictator.

    Watch the RichRebuilds review of Chinese EVs. There is a lot of "make it look good" in their engineering, like massive painted brake calipers...that are a single piston. The cars probably aren't as quality as other EVs, but the prices, specs, and niche features are very compelling. I'd definitely consider one in the US. Anything that isn't a Tesla or a massive crossover would be great.

  • I wonder what continues to motivate the uber rich to seek more wealth-you simply can't buy any more tangible amount of happiness through material or influence after a point.

    Once you have enough money, anything you do makes you money.

    Elon blew 44 billion or Twitter, axed the servers, staff, and the name, and he was able to leverage that into a government job where he could kill investigations into his companies years later. You could say it's intelligence, but I'd say it's a combination of luck, and the resources to blow 44 billion and not have it affect you personally in any way.

  • We bought a second hand i3 (2014) model for my SO to drive to work and back (short distances). The range is objectively horrible (about 100 km), but sufficient for my SO's needs. Overall, we love the car! It's so much fun to drive, and very efficient due to its light carbon fiber chassis. The car does everything we expect of it and we run it very cheap.

    Such a waste BMW didn't iterate on the i3/i8 sooner. They would've knocked Tesla out of the water before they could even learn how to swim.

    That's exactly our requirement, if budget allows even getting the 90Ah model for 150km. Plus I love the looks, weird and futuristic. Thanks for sharing!

  • The cold war never became hot

    Tell that to the millions of people the west murdered through bombing of Korea, Vietnam or Laos, the millions more murdered though US support of military dictators such as Suharto or Pinochet, or the millions who died through the de-stabilization of their countries such as Mosaddeq's Iran, Guatemala or the outright invasion of Iraq. Ask those people what they think of the west's military expenses over the past century.

    Democracies have more freedoms allowing for more accurate polling. There is also less fear of consequences for being open

    Literally two days ago Mamdani won the mayoral elections against all polls, polls in the west are heavily manipulated. And literally last week a man was denied entry in the country due to having a picture of bald Vance. I happen to be Spanish, and in our super-democratic state we have literal political prisoners who had to free the country such as Carles Puigdemont due to political persecution and risking their lives in jail. The west is NOT more democratic than China at this point, and the trend is towards openness in China and towards fascism in the west.

    The trend is toward openness in China? Just off the top of my head didnt Xi consolidate more power over the last 12 months and stop issuing economic statistics as a resukt of their trend?

    I am not American, they are a shit hole country, they have never been much more but the veneer is wiped off now.

    Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot. Russia and the US had so much military power no one risked direct attacks.

    I do not support the US, Israel or any such shite but dont tell half a story and sum up with china is opening up.

  • I used to like and look up to SpaceX for the interesting stuff that they build,

    but nowadays i don't care anymore. The company can fail for all i care. Musk spoiled it.

    The tipping point, for me personally, was when Musk seriously threatened to slash public spending in February this year. It shows a clear disrespect to the people, and frankly, a sociopathic attitude.

    Musk had everything, lots of money, lots of fame, lots of influence, but he threw it all away when he decided to threaten the wellbeing and lifelyhood of a lot of people just so that rich assholes can make an extra buck through tax cuts.

    SpaceX should be nationalized. We paid for it, it's ours.

  • No, I haven't bought a new car in many many years.

    That's absolutely unacceptable. I would have the dashboard pulled out in minutes. Wherever the modem is, it wouldn't be there for long.

    Hahahah, fuse go brrrr.

    Jokes aside, they probably shut off the car if it can't phone home within a certain time period.

  • The trend is toward openness in China? Just off the top of my head didnt Xi consolidate more power over the last 12 months and stop issuing economic statistics as a resukt of their trend?

    I am not American, they are a shit hole country, they have never been much more but the veneer is wiped off now.

    Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot. Russia and the US had so much military power no one risked direct attacks.

    I do not support the US, Israel or any such shite but dont tell half a story and sum up with china is opening up.

    stop issuing economic statistics

    Then what's this?. I literally don't know what you're talking about.

    The trend is toward openness in China?

    Yes. China is progressively opening up, allowing things such as IShowSpeed to do livestreams of the country wherever he wants and granting him honorary visas, and spreading the contact of Chinese people with westerners through for example XiaoHongShu (RedNote) or TikTok, which is why the US wants to ban access to these apps. I'm not a US citizen either, I'm European, and the EU itself closed access to Russian media some months after the war started. You may or may not think that this is justified, but it's quite literally the definition of "closing up", and China is engaging in exactly the opposite.

    Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot

    I beg you tell the same to a Ukrainian or to a Vietnamese.

  • Hahahah, fuse go brrrr.

    Jokes aside, they probably shut off the car if it can't phone home within a certain time period.

    That's equivalent to buying a subscription to a car. I would never buy that car. That's koo koo bananapants unsane.

    Of course, I don't have a facepals account either so - what do i know.

  • SpaceX should be nationalized. We paid for it, it's ours.

    Agreed. This system of giving out money and getting what we paid for sold back to us is fucking dumb.

  • That's equivalent to buying a subscription to a car. I would never buy that car. That's koo koo bananapants unsane.

    Of course, I don't have a facepals account either so - what do i know.

    Yeah. I have a car that has telemetry. Sucks for privacy, but if I was going to commit a crime, I would just ******************************************************************************, use the system to obfuscate the data.

  • SpaceX should be nationalized. We paid for it, it's ours.

    Who in the current admin would you like to see run it? Because one of them would if it were nationalized. Who would be your pick?

  • Who in the current admin would you like to see run it? Because one of them would if it were nationalized. Who would be your pick?

    It would be under NASA, but the argument is moot, since it wouldn't happen under a MAGA Nazi administration. It will have to wait until Americans take back our government. Then we can nationalize Space X, confiscate the DOGE Goblin's fortune, and deport him back to South Africa.

  • Who in the current admin would you like to see run it? Because one of them would if it were nationalized. Who would be your pick?

    The current regime is full of ignorant buffoons but at least in that case it would normally be temporary.

    In the private model where the gov pays for everything anyway, the taxpayer pays the cost of doing the thing plus whatever profit the oligarch wants to make and you have no way of switching to another oligarch should the current one becomes unacceptable. There is simply no upside to SpaceX as a private entity

  • stop issuing economic statistics

    Then what's this?. I literally don't know what you're talking about.

    The trend is toward openness in China?

    Yes. China is progressively opening up, allowing things such as IShowSpeed to do livestreams of the country wherever he wants and granting him honorary visas, and spreading the contact of Chinese people with westerners through for example XiaoHongShu (RedNote) or TikTok, which is why the US wants to ban access to these apps. I'm not a US citizen either, I'm European, and the EU itself closed access to Russian media some months after the war started. You may or may not think that this is justified, but it's quite literally the definition of "closing up", and China is engaging in exactly the opposite.

    Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot

    I beg you tell the same to a Ukrainian or to a Vietnamese.

    Then what's this

    Show me the youth unemployment figures.

    spreading the contact of Chinese people with westerners through for example XiaoHongShu (RedNote) or TikTok, which is why the US wants to ban access to these apps

    You missed the part where China hurried through a tiktok like curtain to silo users.

    You must have also missed the social credit scoring. The HK protests.

    You may or may not think that this is justified, but it's quite literally the definition of "closing up", and China is engaging in exactly the opposite.

    This is textbook tolerance paradox stuff, either accept propaganda or you ae against free speech. Oligarchical authoritarian cunts should not have access into a foreign population, that is why Trump is in power. Are you telling me the EU has less press freedoms than Russia or China? Because closing the gap doesnt mean much if its by a tenth of a degree.

    I beg you tell the same to a Ukrainian or to a Vietnamese

    Its clear you are passionate and refusing to take on board an alternative view. There is nothing in what I have said that should lead you to reply with this. Understand proxy wars and realise that military spending kept the direct warfare cold.

    Ukraine is atrocity that is only tied to the cold war by way of Russia continuing fighting it while the US got complacent and allowed their government to fall which lead to a lack of support/tacit support for Russia.

  • China can have all the images they want from my car's. I don't live in China or anywhere near them. I'm more concerned about US made EVs and their surveillance because I travel there regularly, and they are digging hard on everything for people coming into the US.

    I live neither in china or the usa, but I don't want myself be recorded by either of their appliances that I use. and that naturally also extends to my neighbors and wherever I go.

    its quite interesting how many people suddenly started to love mass surveillance

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    I wonder if they could develop this into a tooth coating. Preventing biofilms would go a long way to preventing cavities.
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  • Catbox.moe got screwed 😿

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    I'll gladly give you a reason. I'm actually happy to articulate my stance on this, considering how much I tend to care about digital rights. Services that host files should not be held responsible for what users upload, unless: The service explicitly caters to illegal content by definition or practice (i.e. the if the website is literally titled uploadyourcsamhere[.]com then it's safe to assume they deliberately want to host illegal content) The service has a very easy mechanism to remove illegal content, either when asked, or through simple monitoring systems, but chooses not to do so (catbox does this, and quite quickly too) Because holding services responsible creates a whole host of negative effects. Here's some examples: Someone starts a CDN and some users upload CSAM. The creator of the CDN goes to jail now. Nobody ever wants to create a CDN because of the legal risk, and thus the only providers of CDNs become shady, expensive, anonymously-run services with no compliance mechanisms. You run a site that hosts images, and someone decides they want to harm you. They upload CSAM, then report the site to law enforcement. You go to jail. Anybody in the future who wants to run an image sharing site must now self-censor to try and not upset any human being that could be willing to harm them via their site. A social media site is hosting the posts and content of users. In order to be compliant and not go to jail, they must engage in extremely strict filtering, otherwise even one mistake could land them in jail. All users of the site are prohibited from posting any NSFW or even suggestive content, (including newsworthy media, such as an image of bodies in a warzone) and any violation leads to an instant ban, because any of those things could lead to a chance of actually illegal content being attached. This isn't just my opinion either. Digital rights organizations such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation have talked at length about similar policies before. To quote them: "When social media platforms adopt heavy-handed moderation policies, the unintended consequences can be hard to predict. For example, Twitter’s policies on sexual material have resulted in posts on sexual health and condoms being taken down. YouTube’s bans on violent content have resulted in journalism on the Syrian war being pulled from the site. It can be tempting to attempt to “fix” certain attitudes and behaviors online by placing increased restrictions on users’ speech, but in practice, web platforms have had more success at silencing innocent people than at making online communities healthier." Now, to address the rest of your comment, since I don't just want to focus on the beginning: I think you have to actively moderate what is uploaded Catbox does, and as previously mentioned, often at a much higher rate than other services, and at a comparable rate to many services that have millions, if not billions of dollars in annual profits that could otherwise be spent on further moderation. there has to be swifter and stricter punishment for those that do upload things that are against TOS and/or illegal. The problem isn't necessarily the speed at which people can be reported and punished, but rather that the internet is fundamentally harder to track people on than real life. It's easy for cops to sit around at a spot they know someone will be physically distributing illegal content at in real life, but digitally, even if you can see the feed of all the information passing through the service, a VPN or Tor connection will anonymize your IP address in a manner that most police departments won't be able to track, and most three-letter agencies will simply have a relatively low success rate with. There's no good solution to this problem of identifying perpetrators, which is why platforms often focus on moderation over legal enforcement actions against users so frequently. It accomplishes the goal of preventing and removing the content without having to, for example, require every single user of the internet to scan an ID (and also magically prevent people from just stealing other people's access tokens and impersonating their ID) I do agree, however, that we should probably provide larger amounts of funding, training, and resources, to divisions who's sole goal is to go after online distribution of various illegal content, primarily that which harms children, because it's certainly still an issue of there being too many reports to go through, even if many of them will still lead to dead ends. I hope that explains why making file hosting services liable for user uploaded content probably isn't the best strategy. I hate to see people with good intentions support ideas that sound good in practice, but in the end just cause more untold harms, and I hope you can understand why I believe this to be the case.
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    Consider the possibility that you don't need to be doing anything wrong besides existing to be persecuted by a fascist regime.
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