Kick faces possible $49 M fine after French streamer Jean Pormanove dies on air
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They kinda did. The dudes were taken in as part of an ongoing investigation but were then released. I can see why it’s fared for the cops when even the victims are saying it’s by their own choice. But it’s no excuse for kick.
French streamer’s on-air death provokes outcry as authorities probe allegations of abuse
The death of a French streamer during an extended broadcast prompted soul-searching and controversy, as a government minister said he had been “humiliated and mistreated for months” on air and a judicial investigation delves into alleged abuse.
CTVNews (www.ctvnews.ca)
The investigation, opened in December, is looking into “deliberate violence against vulnerable persons” and “spreading recordings of images related to offences involving deliberate violations of physical integrity,” Martinelli’s statement said. It did not specify why Pormanove could be considered vulnerable.
The statement said two co-streamers allegedly involved in the case were briefly taken into custody in January but were released pending further investigation.
In parallel, the Nice prosecutor said, investigators interviewed Pormanove and one of his co-streamers who both appeared to be victims of violence and humiliation. They “strongly denied being victims of violence, stating that the events were staged in order to `generate a buzz’ and make money.”
I mean, the footage is all public, right? Why shouldn't the cops be able to watch it with their own eyes, and determine if it's kosher?
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Would you watch a torture scene if you're not sure it is simulated or not?
In a movie? It's Surely fake. On a livestream? I won't be so sure.
I've not watched any of this, however there were investigations and "investigators interviewed Pormanove and one of his co-streamers who both appeared to be victims of violence and humiliation. They “strongly denied being victims of violence, stating that the events were staged in order to `generate a buzz’ and make money.” ". That seems to me that this was simulated torture, or at the very least consensual torture. I've watched and enjoyed many episodes of Jackass and I'd consider some of the things they did to be a form of torture... this just seems to be the natural progression of that genre of 'shock entertainment', which unfortunately went too far in this case.
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some stuff against said terms
Like mastercard and their ban of all purchases of items that could reflect negatively on their brand. Like porn.
I think platforms can dissallow some unreasonable content without 3rd parties trying to police all porn
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I mean, the footage is all public, right? Why shouldn't the cops be able to watch it with their own eyes, and determine if it's kosher?
execution of the law is always more complicated than we want it to be. They could have been let off as the investigation continued if the victim told the cops "i did everything with full consent and it was all an act for the entertainment of the stream.". Cops/W/e the french version of DA is would possibly need to continue the investigation to show that either he was unable to consent to the actions or it was a lie that there was consent.
I'm just a layperson and maybe it was more cut and dry and the cops really dropped the ball. It just doesn't seem so cut and dry legally to me. Will be interesting to see the outcome of the investigation from this.
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I guess I'm too old to understand what the hell Kick is or how grown people are making a living being childish bullies, but for Christ's sake, they just killed courage the dog's owner.
courage the dog’s owner
Now I feel a little better Eustace he scared me as a kid
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OK, but - could he not leave? Or say "i do not want to"? I don't get it
Apparently he tried to but they refused
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So all those "red room" legends were true. It's just that instead of being in the dark web, it was broadcast in public for the world to see. How dystopian.
The frog in the water pot and the bystander effect are closely linked, methinks.
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If I understood properly the guy was a kinda homeless person that the two fuckers "hosted" in their house in exchange for participating (being tortured) in their streams. He was disabled or mentally challenged too, and there was another victim of theirs that was handicapped in the flat too.
The alarm has been raised for at least 8 months but neither the police nor the national agencies nor the minister contacted either did or decided to do anything. Every time the police came the victims were saying that all was good and they gave their consent to anything, but on stream they were often asking to call the cops, an ambulance or trying to leave and the two fuckers barred them the exit and threatened to beat them or throw them back to the streets. So they were basically held hostage.
The whole thing is a disgrace. It was the most viewed French language stream on Kick for months, two vulnerable people being tortured on stream and nobody did anything.
It's sort of an extension of lolcow culture. This is a vid I recommend to watch to understand it.
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From what I understood the two fuckers will probably get a 25 to 30 years of jail sentence, and some of the people who donated money to them to encourage them in the torture also risk prison time. Which I fucking hope they get.
Someone took upon himself to save all the worst clips and try to raise the alarm, they have more than 300 hours of stream capture with evidence of torture and other wrongdoings.
I really hope they go after peoppe who donated too. Disgusting peoppr all around.
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I hardly even know what kick is, i assumed it's just twitch for more degenerate people ald less rules. But why does kick has to pay suck a insane fee? They brodcasted it and didn't do anything when people raised awareness, sure. But the main takeaway is always that people do and watch sick garbage if they have the opportunity. Hell they even pay for it and encourage it.
When they were alerted to it, they did nothing. They simply allowed it to continue, and profited from it.
Worse than that, Kick even gave this channel money and featured it. They are totally complicit.
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Facebook goes wild if you don't really interact with it other than to browse.
Pause for a microsecond over something, welp I guess that's your hobby now. For some reason mine always shows me chess. I have never played chess. Hate it. A family member on my Facebook friends list likes chess. FB just goes "chess? how about chess?" like it's got nothing else to really offer other than flag waving racism.
Yeah. Ive noticed I get content based on who's been aroind.
Drop kick cousin - graffiti content. Partners nerd friend - board games. Small family members - shitty gen z YouTubers.