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  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    If it's not "any game of a list of 200 and it must run without effort", then most games can be made to work either with a certain version of Wine and winetricks settings, or with a certain version of Proton, and there are many things to consider trying.

    I once couldn't play X-Wing Alliance under FreeBSD because of joystick not being visible, so I went as far as patching Wine's winmm (I think) to make it work, and carrying that patch around when upgrading Wine or installing someplace new. Glad to report that now one doesn't need it.

    That's more than most things require, and some can't be made work with just one simple patch, but the point is - a lot of games work.

    And once you've made it work, no additional effort is needed. Just having, maybe, a script setting the right environment variables and launching the game.

    A lot of games will just run.

  • You can argue all you want about TPM and its 'security'. I ALWAYS thought that forcing users to use TPM 2+ hardware is planned obsolescence and nothing/no one will convince me otherwise.

    The only thing affected users can and should do is to leave that PoS of an 'operating system'.

    It's not PoS. At its core Windows NT is very cool, and the Windows subsystem for it is not terrible.

    What's PoS is that the only way you get it is with such a heap of garbage, that you can't see the good parts behind it.

    And even its developers seem to have forgotten those good parts, I wonder if they ever change anything there other than "closing" vulnerabilities with yet another condition in some long-long switch ... case ... statements.

  • I would not want to use it [Linux or BSD] as my primary desktop system for too many reasons to go into here.

    The Linux kernel not having a stable driver ABI is why Linux will never amount to anything outside of some embedded and server applications.

    --- Maya Posch, author of the submitted article

    I guess maybe that's their reason.

    FreeBSD has stable ABIs (inside one major version).

    Anyway, this is not an answer, NVidia drivers had a binary part and a part compiled during installation for the specific kernel version, that's one possible solution. Linux developers are ideologically against this, yes, and don't want binary drivers to be first-class citizens.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    What games? Even games with EasyAntiCheat work in Linux nowadays, but it depends on the devs.

  • What is “Proton” in this context?

    Adding to what the others were saying, proton has an unaffiliated website for reporting purposes, protondb.com. It tallies user reports of the games working or not. The data is associated mostly with steam libraries.

    I don't have a lot of games in my steam library, relatively speaking, barely over 100. But there are zero games that would not work on Linux for me:

    In this context Platinum means it works out of the box, Gold means some users experienced minor issues (mostly older reports by nvidia users) that required some tinkering with launch options, such as setting an environment variable. Silver and Bronze mean gradually more tinkering required but still works. This excludes native apps (which do not use wine/proton) and borked apps (of which I own zero).

    Note, that this is a translation layer, not emulation, and often games can have better performance under Linux thanks to the system not getting bogged down by the OS itself.

    Also note, that 99% borked games are due to kernel level anticheat and DRM being implemented improperly by the game developer, which proton can't handle. You can still make it work under Linux, but you'd actually require emulation for that, instead of proton.

    Edit:

    Another screenshot of the top50 played saturation to show you what to expect.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    For what it's worth, I switched 2 years ago and have yet to run into a game I wanted to play and couldn't. There are some glaring holes, mostly around "serious e-sports" games that have overly invasive anti-cheat (or devs that specifically choose to block linux) that won't work. Riot and Epic both seem to have a hard on for blocking linux users, as an example.

    But here's the neat part. You can make the switch and see, and it costs you nothing. If you are in the minority that it just won't work for and have to switch back to windows, you are in the exact same spot you are in now, with nothing lost but a bit of time.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    Linux is fantastic for gaming. You’ll even see performance improvements. The only games that have problems are those that intentionally block linux, like Destiny 2, but they’re not worth playing.

    The places you are likely to run into problems is with certain desktop apps. For example, the Affinity suite or software designed to support specific devices or peripherals. But if gaming is your focus, Linux is genuinely a better choice than Windows all around.

  • That reminds me that now in the office we’re dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don’t ask, it’s windows, it’s Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it’s “oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it’s impossible to get it to work!” but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with “well computers are complicated, let’s just reinstall this”

    Ah, yes, that. I switched in 2011 and the first impressions were about how flawless everything is compared to Windows.

    the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine…

    Eh, about that - Linux really isn't immune to that. Just right now Windows is still by far the more profitable target.

    It's better now but twenty years ago some Linux distros were so insecure out of the box that you could be fully owned if you logged into the wrong network.

    Even still, I don't see most distros leverage the security capabilities that running Linux enables. Linux runs the server side of the internet, being a niche os isn't the security silver bullet it once was.

  • Microsoft: BUT WE’RE THE MOST ECO CONSCIOUS COMPANY WE KNOW!!!

    DON'T TURN ON DISPLAYING SECONDS IN THE TASKBAR BECAUSE THAT'LL USE MORE ENERGY!

  • Switch to Linux, today. It's always been the better option, but for the last decade it's been the easier option as well. Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    That reminds me that now in the office we're dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don't ask, it's windows, it's Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it's "oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it's impossible to get it to work!" but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with "well computers are complicated, let's just reinstall this"

    Yes, there is still a limited set of specialty hardware that may not have drivers available for Linux, but the vast majority of people can easily run Linux and have a much MUCH better experience than windows, and that is ignoring the spyware, the adware, the ads, the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine....

    Switch to Linux, it's easy, it's beautiful, it's fun. Come to Linux, come to the dark side, we have cookies

    Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    I thought the whole shtick of Linux/FOSS was that it didn't make any default choices for you. That's what I always read here when people cry about windows bloat.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    Point is: it's not that easy and being and insufferable jerk about it its not gonna solve it. Let people use what they want.

  • Because it's so hard to use Rufus and make a win 11 install that bypasses the tpm requirements.

    having to use hacks to get an operating system installed shouldn't be needed.

    requiring a Microsoft account to use Windows also shouldn't even have been considered.

  • I'm pretty hesitant to find the time to install and learn Linux but I'm VERY hesitant to upgrade to Win11. I'm having trouble understanding what the selling point for it is over Win10. I feel like it used to be clear and exciting to upgrade but they've managed to make this feel sort of dreadful.

    There is no particular selling point. That's why they force it.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

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    Where’s Microsoft’s Chief Sustainability Officer on this one? Too busy looking the other way on Copilot’s massive energy usage?

  • Adding to what the others were saying, proton has an unaffiliated website for reporting purposes, protondb.com. It tallies user reports of the games working or not. The data is associated mostly with steam libraries.

    I don't have a lot of games in my steam library, relatively speaking, barely over 100. But there are zero games that would not work on Linux for me:

    In this context Platinum means it works out of the box, Gold means some users experienced minor issues (mostly older reports by nvidia users) that required some tinkering with launch options, such as setting an environment variable. Silver and Bronze mean gradually more tinkering required but still works. This excludes native apps (which do not use wine/proton) and borked apps (of which I own zero).

    Note, that this is a translation layer, not emulation, and often games can have better performance under Linux thanks to the system not getting bogged down by the OS itself.

    Also note, that 99% borked games are due to kernel level anticheat and DRM being implemented improperly by the game developer, which proton can't handle. You can still make it work under Linux, but you'd actually require emulation for that, instead of proton.

    Edit:

    Another screenshot of the top50 played saturation to show you what to expect.

    OK, thanks for the information, that sounds really interesting. I was playing Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus some time ago, but I made a bread and didn‘t pick it up anymore due to a lack of time. Many years ago I was also trying a bit of Linux on a Netbook (small notebook). By then it was really a different world than Windows.

    However, I am not sure how easy that is to manage with getting the right Linux distribution, then Wine, then Proton and then getting all tricks and tweaks right… - I am not a tech expert, so leaving a system that works out of the box is a bit of a hurdle for me.

    What would be the best Linux „Distro“ (I guess that‘s how it is called) to start with? I would prefer if I would not have to deal with command line stuff… 😉

  • Microsoft: BUT WE’RE THE MOST ECO CONSCIOUS COMPANY WE KNOW!!!

    You can’t say they’re not. The even have a Chief Sustainability Officer! /s

  • Switch to Linux, today. It's always been the better option, but for the last decade it's been the easier option as well. Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    That reminds me that now in the office we're dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don't ask, it's windows, it's Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it's "oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it's impossible to get it to work!" but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with "well computers are complicated, let's just reinstall this"

    Yes, there is still a limited set of specialty hardware that may not have drivers available for Linux, but the vast majority of people can easily run Linux and have a much MUCH better experience than windows, and that is ignoring the spyware, the adware, the ads, the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine....

    Switch to Linux, it's easy, it's beautiful, it's fun. Come to Linux, come to the dark side, we have cookies

    Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    As a server maybe. Switching everything on my desktop to Linux has been a constant fight against all kinds of problems and there's several things I haven't been able to get working at all. Microsoft's constant enshittification is closing the gap and it's currently a tossup between which one I'm going to land on but that's not Linux improving so much as Windows getting worse.

  • OK, thanks for the information, that sounds really interesting. I was playing Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus some time ago, but I made a bread and didn‘t pick it up anymore due to a lack of time. Many years ago I was also trying a bit of Linux on a Netbook (small notebook). By then it was really a different world than Windows.

    However, I am not sure how easy that is to manage with getting the right Linux distribution, then Wine, then Proton and then getting all tricks and tweaks right… - I am not a tech expert, so leaving a system that works out of the box is a bit of a hurdle for me.

    What would be the best Linux „Distro“ (I guess that‘s how it is called) to start with? I would prefer if I would not have to deal with command line stuff… 😉

    People keep saying Bazzite now for distro. But as a relatively new linux user (since last summer) I've managed to make things work with Linux Mint, arch and Fedora no hassle.

    Heroic launcher (GOG, Epic) or Steam will handle proton&wine for you. Just need to check a check-box in the game's config on whether you want to run native or proton.

  • Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    I thought the whole shtick of Linux/FOSS was that it didn't make any default choices for you. That's what I always read here when people cry about windows bloat.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    Point is: it's not that easy and being and insufferable jerk about it its not gonna solve it. Let people use what they want.

    Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    if you tell us the names, maybe someone can help

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    that's the decision of the distribution, not KDE/Gnome. often it is configurable in the installer, even in debian to some level.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    to be fair if uninstalling unneeded programs is the only thing you do on 11, you're leaving in lots of things.

    Let people use what they want.

    I agree that insufferable jerks are insufferable jerks, but I don't think most people want to use windows 11, but that's what they can use, for one reason or another, some of which have a solution, some of which not yet. if anything, I would bet money most would rather just stay on 10.

  • I had an ipod that was filled with "pirated" (ripped) audio files, never owned a single itunes purchased song, and have used Windows on many computers that didnt have OneDrive setup and never experienced either of those.

    Do you have some sources for those cause I'd be interested to read about them.

    I currently have a modded iPod mini with 128Gb of music, around 1Gb of which was bought from iTunes.

    It works perfectly fine. Remarkably so, in fact. Damn things 20 years old, I can plug it into my M2 Macbook and sync music like always.

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    @technocrit While I agree with the main point that "AI/LLMs has/have no agency", I must be the boring, ackchyually person who points out and remembers some nerdy things.tl;dr: indeed, AIs and LLMs aren't intelligent... we aren't so intelligent as we think we are, either, because we hold no "exclusivity" of intelligence among biosphere (corvids, dolphins, etc) and because there's no such thing as non-deterministic "intelligence". We're just biologically compelled to think that we can think and we're the only ones to think, and this is just anthropocentric and naive from us (yeah, me included).If you have the patience to read a long and quite verbose text, it's below. If you don't, well, no problems, just stick to my tl;dr above.-----First and foremost, everything is ruled by physics. Deep down, everything is just energy and matter (the former of which, to quote the famous Einstein equation e = mc, is energy as well), and this inexorably includes living beings.Bodies, flesh, brains, nerves and other biological parts, they're not so different from a computer case, CPUs/NPUs/TPUs, cables and other computer parts: to quote Sagan, it's all "made of star stuff", it's all a bunch of quarks and other elementary particles clumped together and forming subatomic particles forming atoms forming molecules forming everything we know, including our very selves...Everything is compelled to follow the same laws of physics, everything is subjected to the same cosmic principles, everything is subjected to the same fundamental forces, everything is subjected to the same entropy, everything decays and ends (and this comment is just a reminder, a cosmic-wide Memento mori).It's bleak, but this is the cosmic reality: cosmos is simply indifferent to all existence, and we're essentially no different than our fancy "tools", be it the wheel, the hammer, the steam engine, the Voyager twins or the modern dystopian electronic devices crafted to follow pieces of logical instructions, some of which were labelled by developers as "Markov Chains" and "Artificial Neural Networks".Then, there's also the human non-exclusivity among the biosphere: corvids (especially Corvus moneduloides, the New Caleidonian crow) are scientifically known for their intelligence, so are dolphins, chimpanzees and many other eukaryotas. Humans love to think we're exclusive in that regard, but we're not, we're just fooling ourselves!IMHO, every time we try to argue "there's no intelligence beyond humans", it's highly anthropocentric and quite biased/bigoted against the countless other species that currently exist on Earth (and possibly beyond this Pale Blue Dot as well). We humans often forgot how we are species ourselves (taxonomically classified as "Homo sapiens"). We tend to carry on our biological existences as if we were some kind of "deities" or "extraterrestrials" among a "primitive, wild life".Furthermore, I can point out the myriad of philosophical points, such as the philosophical point raised by the mere mention of "senses" ("Because it’s bodiless. It has no senses, ..." "my senses deceive me" is the starting point for Cartesian (René Descartes) doubt. While Descarte's conclusion, "Cogito ergo sum", is highly anthropocentric, it's often ignored or forgotten by those who hold anthropocentric views on intelligence, as people often ground the seemingly "exclusive" nature of human intelligence on the ability to "feel".Many other philosophical musings deserve to be mentioned as well: lack of free will (stemming from the very fact that we were unable to choose our own births), the nature of "evil" (both the Hobbesian line regarding "human evilness" and the Epicurean paradox regarding "metaphysical evilness"), the social compliance (I must point out to documentaries from Derren Brown on this subject), the inevitability of Death, among other deep topics.All deep principles and ideas converging, IMHO, into the same bleak reality, one where we (supposedly "soul-bearing beings") are no different from a "souless" machine, because we're both part of an emergent phenomena (Ordo ab chao, the (apparent) order out of chaos) that has been taking place for Æons (billions of years and beyond, since the dawn of time itself).Yeah, I know how unpopular this worldview can be and how downvoted this comment will probably get. Still I don't care: someone who gazed into the abyss must remember how the abyss always gazes us, even those of us who didn't dare to gaze into the abyss yet.I'm someone compelled by my very neurodivergent nature to remember how we humans are just another fleeting arrangement of interconnected subsystems known as "biological organism", one of which "managed" to throw stuff beyond the atmosphere (spacecrafts) while still unable to understand ourselves. We're biologically programmed, just like the other living beings, to "fear Death", even though our very cells are programmed to terminate on a regular basis (apoptosis) and we're are subjected to the inexorable chronological falling towards "cosmic chaos" (entropy, as defined, "as time passes, the degree of disorder increases irreversibly").
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