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  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    If it's not "any game of a list of 200 and it must run without effort", then most games can be made to work either with a certain version of Wine and winetricks settings, or with a certain version of Proton, and there are many things to consider trying.

    I once couldn't play X-Wing Alliance under FreeBSD because of joystick not being visible, so I went as far as patching Wine's winmm (I think) to make it work, and carrying that patch around when upgrading Wine or installing someplace new. Glad to report that now one doesn't need it.

    That's more than most things require, and some can't be made work with just one simple patch, but the point is - a lot of games work.

    And once you've made it work, no additional effort is needed. Just having, maybe, a script setting the right environment variables and launching the game.

    A lot of games will just run.

  • You can argue all you want about TPM and its 'security'. I ALWAYS thought that forcing users to use TPM 2+ hardware is planned obsolescence and nothing/no one will convince me otherwise.

    The only thing affected users can and should do is to leave that PoS of an 'operating system'.

    It's not PoS. At its core Windows NT is very cool, and the Windows subsystem for it is not terrible.

    What's PoS is that the only way you get it is with such a heap of garbage, that you can't see the good parts behind it.

    And even its developers seem to have forgotten those good parts, I wonder if they ever change anything there other than "closing" vulnerabilities with yet another condition in some long-long switch ... case ... statements.

  • I would not want to use it [Linux or BSD] as my primary desktop system for too many reasons to go into here.

    The Linux kernel not having a stable driver ABI is why Linux will never amount to anything outside of some embedded and server applications.

    --- Maya Posch, author of the submitted article

    I guess maybe that's their reason.

    FreeBSD has stable ABIs (inside one major version).

    Anyway, this is not an answer, NVidia drivers had a binary part and a part compiled during installation for the specific kernel version, that's one possible solution. Linux developers are ideologically against this, yes, and don't want binary drivers to be first-class citizens.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    What games? Even games with EasyAntiCheat work in Linux nowadays, but it depends on the devs.

  • What is “Proton” in this context?

    Adding to what the others were saying, proton has an unaffiliated website for reporting purposes, protondb.com. It tallies user reports of the games working or not. The data is associated mostly with steam libraries.

    I don't have a lot of games in my steam library, relatively speaking, barely over 100. But there are zero games that would not work on Linux for me:

    In this context Platinum means it works out of the box, Gold means some users experienced minor issues (mostly older reports by nvidia users) that required some tinkering with launch options, such as setting an environment variable. Silver and Bronze mean gradually more tinkering required but still works. This excludes native apps (which do not use wine/proton) and borked apps (of which I own zero).

    Note, that this is a translation layer, not emulation, and often games can have better performance under Linux thanks to the system not getting bogged down by the OS itself.

    Also note, that 99% borked games are due to kernel level anticheat and DRM being implemented improperly by the game developer, which proton can't handle. You can still make it work under Linux, but you'd actually require emulation for that, instead of proton.

    Edit:

    Another screenshot of the top50 played saturation to show you what to expect.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    For what it's worth, I switched 2 years ago and have yet to run into a game I wanted to play and couldn't. There are some glaring holes, mostly around "serious e-sports" games that have overly invasive anti-cheat (or devs that specifically choose to block linux) that won't work. Riot and Epic both seem to have a hard on for blocking linux users, as an example.

    But here's the neat part. You can make the switch and see, and it costs you nothing. If you are in the minority that it just won't work for and have to switch back to windows, you are in the exact same spot you are in now, with nothing lost but a bit of time.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

    Linux is fantastic for gaming. You’ll even see performance improvements. The only games that have problems are those that intentionally block linux, like Destiny 2, but they’re not worth playing.

    The places you are likely to run into problems is with certain desktop apps. For example, the Affinity suite or software designed to support specific devices or peripherals. But if gaming is your focus, Linux is genuinely a better choice than Windows all around.

  • That reminds me that now in the office we’re dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don’t ask, it’s windows, it’s Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it’s “oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it’s impossible to get it to work!” but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with “well computers are complicated, let’s just reinstall this”

    Ah, yes, that. I switched in 2011 and the first impressions were about how flawless everything is compared to Windows.

    the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine…

    Eh, about that - Linux really isn't immune to that. Just right now Windows is still by far the more profitable target.

    It's better now but twenty years ago some Linux distros were so insecure out of the box that you could be fully owned if you logged into the wrong network.

    Even still, I don't see most distros leverage the security capabilities that running Linux enables. Linux runs the server side of the internet, being a niche os isn't the security silver bullet it once was.

  • Microsoft: BUT WE’RE THE MOST ECO CONSCIOUS COMPANY WE KNOW!!!

    DON'T TURN ON DISPLAYING SECONDS IN THE TASKBAR BECAUSE THAT'LL USE MORE ENERGY!

  • Switch to Linux, today. It's always been the better option, but for the last decade it's been the easier option as well. Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    That reminds me that now in the office we're dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don't ask, it's windows, it's Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it's "oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it's impossible to get it to work!" but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with "well computers are complicated, let's just reinstall this"

    Yes, there is still a limited set of specialty hardware that may not have drivers available for Linux, but the vast majority of people can easily run Linux and have a much MUCH better experience than windows, and that is ignoring the spyware, the adware, the ads, the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine....

    Switch to Linux, it's easy, it's beautiful, it's fun. Come to Linux, come to the dark side, we have cookies

    Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    I thought the whole shtick of Linux/FOSS was that it didn't make any default choices for you. That's what I always read here when people cry about windows bloat.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    Point is: it's not that easy and being and insufferable jerk about it its not gonna solve it. Let people use what they want.

  • Because it's so hard to use Rufus and make a win 11 install that bypasses the tpm requirements.

    having to use hacks to get an operating system installed shouldn't be needed.

    requiring a Microsoft account to use Windows also shouldn't even have been considered.

  • I'm pretty hesitant to find the time to install and learn Linux but I'm VERY hesitant to upgrade to Win11. I'm having trouble understanding what the selling point for it is over Win10. I feel like it used to be clear and exciting to upgrade but they've managed to make this feel sort of dreadful.

    There is no particular selling point. That's why they force it.

  • I have a custom built PC running on Windows 10, which has no TPM and therefore cannot update to Win11. I might consider Linux as an alternative on some regular laptop, but I'm afraid that my games might no longer be running if I switch the OS from Windows to Linux.

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    Where’s Microsoft’s Chief Sustainability Officer on this one? Too busy looking the other way on Copilot’s massive energy usage?

  • Adding to what the others were saying, proton has an unaffiliated website for reporting purposes, protondb.com. It tallies user reports of the games working or not. The data is associated mostly with steam libraries.

    I don't have a lot of games in my steam library, relatively speaking, barely over 100. But there are zero games that would not work on Linux for me:

    In this context Platinum means it works out of the box, Gold means some users experienced minor issues (mostly older reports by nvidia users) that required some tinkering with launch options, such as setting an environment variable. Silver and Bronze mean gradually more tinkering required but still works. This excludes native apps (which do not use wine/proton) and borked apps (of which I own zero).

    Note, that this is a translation layer, not emulation, and often games can have better performance under Linux thanks to the system not getting bogged down by the OS itself.

    Also note, that 99% borked games are due to kernel level anticheat and DRM being implemented improperly by the game developer, which proton can't handle. You can still make it work under Linux, but you'd actually require emulation for that, instead of proton.

    Edit:

    Another screenshot of the top50 played saturation to show you what to expect.

    OK, thanks for the information, that sounds really interesting. I was playing Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus some time ago, but I made a bread and didn‘t pick it up anymore due to a lack of time. Many years ago I was also trying a bit of Linux on a Netbook (small notebook). By then it was really a different world than Windows.

    However, I am not sure how easy that is to manage with getting the right Linux distribution, then Wine, then Proton and then getting all tricks and tweaks right… - I am not a tech expert, so leaving a system that works out of the box is a bit of a hurdle for me.

    What would be the best Linux „Distro“ (I guess that‘s how it is called) to start with? I would prefer if I would not have to deal with command line stuff… 😉

  • Microsoft: BUT WE’RE THE MOST ECO CONSCIOUS COMPANY WE KNOW!!!

    You can’t say they’re not. The even have a Chief Sustainability Officer! /s

  • Switch to Linux, today. It's always been the better option, but for the last decade it's been the easier option as well. Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    That reminds me that now in the office we're dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don't ask, it's windows, it's Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it's "oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it's impossible to get it to work!" but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with "well computers are complicated, let's just reinstall this"

    Yes, there is still a limited set of specialty hardware that may not have drivers available for Linux, but the vast majority of people can easily run Linux and have a much MUCH better experience than windows, and that is ignoring the spyware, the adware, the ads, the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine....

    Switch to Linux, it's easy, it's beautiful, it's fun. Come to Linux, come to the dark side, we have cookies

    Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    As a server maybe. Switching everything on my desktop to Linux has been a constant fight against all kinds of problems and there's several things I haven't been able to get working at all. Microsoft's constant enshittification is closing the gap and it's currently a tossup between which one I'm going to land on but that's not Linux improving so much as Windows getting worse.

  • OK, thanks for the information, that sounds really interesting. I was playing Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus some time ago, but I made a bread and didn‘t pick it up anymore due to a lack of time. Many years ago I was also trying a bit of Linux on a Netbook (small notebook). By then it was really a different world than Windows.

    However, I am not sure how easy that is to manage with getting the right Linux distribution, then Wine, then Proton and then getting all tricks and tweaks right… - I am not a tech expert, so leaving a system that works out of the box is a bit of a hurdle for me.

    What would be the best Linux „Distro“ (I guess that‘s how it is called) to start with? I would prefer if I would not have to deal with command line stuff… 😉

    People keep saying Bazzite now for distro. But as a relatively new linux user (since last summer) I've managed to make things work with Linux Mint, arch and Fedora no hassle.

    Heroic launcher (GOG, Epic) or Steam will handle proton&wine for you. Just need to check a check-box in the game's config on whether you want to run native or proton.

  • Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    I thought the whole shtick of Linux/FOSS was that it didn't make any default choices for you. That's what I always read here when people cry about windows bloat.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    Point is: it's not that easy and being and insufferable jerk about it its not gonna solve it. Let people use what they want.

    Quick glance on my installed programs, and I count 7 apps I heavily use in windows 11 with no linux version, nor a clear equivalent that could replace them without extensive hacks that may or may not work and be a total waste of my time.

    if you tell us the names, maybe someone can help

    Also a funny thing: I installed Debian with KDE and then GNOME last year on another PC, and guess what? KDE & GNOME came bloated with a bunch of apps, games, office suite, code editor and other shit.

    that's the decision of the distribution, not KDE/Gnome. often it is configurable in the installer, even in debian to some level.

    The same cleanup & customization did for windows 11 I had to do to Debian KDE and then GNOME.

    to be fair if uninstalling unneeded programs is the only thing you do on 11, you're leaving in lots of things.

    Let people use what they want.

    I agree that insufferable jerks are insufferable jerks, but I don't think most people want to use windows 11, but that's what they can use, for one reason or another, some of which have a solution, some of which not yet. if anything, I would bet money most would rather just stay on 10.

  • I had an ipod that was filled with "pirated" (ripped) audio files, never owned a single itunes purchased song, and have used Windows on many computers that didnt have OneDrive setup and never experienced either of those.

    Do you have some sources for those cause I'd be interested to read about them.

    I currently have a modded iPod mini with 128Gb of music, around 1Gb of which was bought from iTunes.

    It works perfectly fine. Remarkably so, in fact. Damn things 20 years old, I can plug it into my M2 Macbook and sync music like always.

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    This isn't really the same kind of bug. Those bugs made instructions emit the wrong answer, which is obviously really bad, and they're really rare. The bugs in the article make instructions take different amounts of time depending on what else the CPU has done recently, which isn't something anyone would notice except that by asking the kernel to do something and measuring the time to execute affected instructions, an attacker that only had usermode access could learn secrets that should only be available to the kernel.
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    theoretically software support This. And it's not only due to drivers and much more due to them not having insourced software development and their outsourced developers not using Fairphones as their daily drivers.
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    They will say something like solar went from 600gw to 1000 thats a 66% increase this year and coal only increased 40% except coal is 3600gw to 6400. Hrmmmm, maybe these numbers are outdated? Based on this coal and gas are down: In Q1 2025, solar generation rose 48% compared to the same period in 2024. Solar power reached 254 TWh, making up 10% of total electricity. This was the largest increase among all clean energy sources. Coal-fired electricity dropped by 4%, falling to 1,421 TWh. Gas-fired power also went down by 4%, reaching 67 TWh https://carboncredits.com/china-sets-clean-energy-record-in-early-2025-with-951-tw/ are no where close to what is required to meet their climate goals Which ones in particular are you talking about? Trump signs executive order directing US withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement — again https://apnews.com/article/trump-paris-agreement-climate-change-788907bb89fe307a964be757313cdfb0 China vowed on Tuesday to continue participating in two cornerstone multinational arrangements -- the World Health Organization and Paris climate accord -- after newly sworn-in US President Donald Trump ordered withdrawals from them. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250121-china-says-committed-to-who-paris-climate-deal-after-us-pulls-out What's that saying? You hate it when the person you hate is doing good? I can't remember what it is I can't fault them for what they're doing at the moment, even if they are run by an evil dictatorship and do pollute the most I’m not sure how european defense spending is relevant It suggests there is money available in the bank to fund solar/wind/battery, but instead they are preparing for? something? what? who knows. France can make a fighter jet at home but not solar panels apparently. Prehaps they would be made in a country with environmental and labour laws if governments legislated properly to prevent companies outsourcing manufacturing. However this doesnt absolve china. China isnt being forced at Gunpoint to produce these goods with low labour regulation and low environmental regulation. You're right, it doesn't absolve china, and I avoid purchasing things from them wherever possible, my solar panels and EV were made in South Korea, my home battery was made in Germany, there are only a few things in my house made in China, most of them I got second hand but unfortunately there is no escaping the giant of manufacturing. With that said it's one thing for me to sit here and tut tut at China, but I realise I am not most people, the most clearest example is the extreme anti-ai, anti-billionaire bias on this platform, in real life most people don't give a fuck, they love Amazon/Microsoft/Google/Apple etc, they can't go a day without them. So I consider myself a realist, if you want people to buy your stuff then you will need to make the conditions possible for them to WANT to buy your stuff, not out of some moral lecture and Europe isn't doing that, if we look at energy prices: Can someone actually point out to me where this comes from? ... At the end of the day energy is a small % of EU household spending I was looking at corporate/business energy use: Major European companies are already moving to cut costs and retain their competitive edge. For example, Thyssenkrupp, Germany’s largest steelmaker, said on Monday it would slash 11,000 jobs in its steel division by 2030, in a major corporate reshuffle. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/High-Energy-Costs-Continue-to-Plague-European-Industry.html Prices have since fallen but are still high compared to other countries. A poll by Germany's DIHK Chambers of Industry and Commerce of around 3,300 companies showed that 37% were considering cutting production or moving abroad, up from 31% last year and 16% in 2022. For energy-intensive industrial firms some 45% of companies were mulling slashing output or relocation, the survey showed. "The trust of the German economy in energy policy is severely damaged," Achim Dercks, DIHK deputy chief executive said, adding that the government had not succeeded in providing companies with a perspective for reliable and affordable energy supply. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/more-german-companies-mull-relocation-due-high-energy-prices-survey-2024-08-01/ I've seen nothing to suggest energy prices in the EU are SO cheap that it's worth moving manufacturing TO Europe, and this is what annoys me the most. I've pointed this out before but they have an excellent report on the issues: https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/97e481fd-2dc3-412d-be4c-f152a8232961_en?filename=The+future+of+European+competitiveness+_+A+competitiveness+strategy+for+Europe.pdf Then they put out this Competitive Compass: https://commission.europa.eu/topics/eu-competitiveness/competitiveness-compass_en But tbh every week in the EU it seems like they are chasing after some other goal. This would be great, it would have been greater 10 years ago. Agreed
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    I don't think so, and I believe not even the current technology used for neural network simulations will bring us to AGI, yet alone LLMs.
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    If I went to the USA now, they'd probably put me there after looking at my social media activity anyway