iFixit says the Switch 2 is even harder to repair than the original
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What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.
The only way to legally play those is on the switch.
Yes, even non children play those games.
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People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.
The only way to legally play those is on the switch.
Yes, even non children play those games.
You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.
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Yeah, it is harder to do. Specifically
- you need to remove stickers in a way that you can replace them, if you want to keep them looking good
- You need to undo glue, iFixit used isopropyl alcohol and force
- Once you're in its fairly easy to replace parts, but Nintendo don't supply parts
- Batteries are glued down, you need to destroy the foam beneath them to get the batteries out, Nintendo don't sell replacement foam, or even a specification for the foam
By being harder it will be more costly to repair
You need to undo glue, iFixit used isopropyl alcohol and force
This part I'm not so concerned about. It sucks but still doable.
Nintendo don't supply parts
Nintendo don't sell replacement foam
Yeah, see, that part I take issue with. That's not doable.
That's what I meant in my original comment.
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You're either a troll or a moron, this is the second time I saw you write stupid shit on a post.
I'm neither but you are a jackass, goodbye.
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Nintendo hardware is built like a freight truck.
Did you own a Switch 1? I would've agreed with you if I hadn't. The Switch was the Nintendo console I opened the most for the least fun. Joy con rails, both sides, and sticks. It's a fragile little thing.
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What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
My Switch Lite is far more comfortable for me to play with than my Steam Deck. I know there are people who say that the Steam Deck is more comfortable and I believe them, but I get tired holding something big and heavy.
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Nintendo hardware is built like a freight truck.
Did you own a Switch 1? I would've agreed with you if I hadn't. The Switch was the Nintendo console I opened the most for the least fun. Joy con rails, both sides, and sticks. It's a fragile little thing.
I owned a Switch 1, and it certainly was the Nintendo console I touched up the most. I replaced the back panel once before I got a Lite and then an OLED.
I will say given how much I took that thing on the road and the beatings it took I never found the issues unreasonable and I only ever had to fix cosmetic damage (joycons aside). I've seen Switches get a TON of usage, too.
It's not Nintendo's most rugged console, but it's certainly not a "fragile little thing" as I would define it.
Let me put it this way, I'd much rather fix a broken Steam Deck, but I was way less worried about breaking a Switch.
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After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.
Maybe if it was 349 or 399... but 499 is wild
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Spoiler alert: it's not. Same joysticks as last time.
Are you fucking kidding? They didn't switch to Hall effect?
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They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.
It's kind of wild, especially given how much they must have lost in that lawsuit requiring them to repair joy-cons free of charge
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Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.
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What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.
Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it's a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it's 100% of the time. People want a "I turn it on, I start a game", not a "I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes".
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You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.
It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
In a lot of place it is illegal to circumvent technical protection measures, which is technically required for almost anything starting from NES era. Making it impossible to "legally" rip your own games (yes, even in places where there IS a tax to allow private copy of content you bought). So the only way you can do that is by downloading it, where there is no "legal" way to distribute it in the first place, so "legally" you can't download it either.
I'm not defending the practice, I'm saying that if you're going the "legal" defense, you're going to have a bad time if it gets attention. Fortunately, suing every single gamer on earth is not an attractive prospect.
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They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.
It's a known and proven shit solution. Have any of you ever actually used hall effect sensor joysticks? The centering is worse, the polling rate is far worse, they use a ton more power (already a limited resource in the individual joycons) and most of all they get absolutely screwed by electromagnetic interference... Interference like, say, magnets holding the joycons on.
Ifixit is kind of full of shit here- the joysticks are the "same" only in that it's using the same general design as every other non-hall effect sensor joystick that's ever been used and most of those didn't have problems with drift.
It's not the same part as the original joycons, so the issue could be fixed- from what the switch welcome tour was saying, it seems pretty likely in fact.
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I wonder if Nintendo will ever embrace repairability like some phone companies have
I guess there's more competition in phones than in devices that can run Mario Cart
If you consider how hostile they are with everything else, I highly doubt it. Nintendo never again
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Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.
Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it's a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it's 100% of the time. People want a "I turn it on, I start a game", not a "I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes".
with consoles, it's 100% of the time
Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole "consoles are 100%!" idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.
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What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
From my friend, the main advantage the switch have is the UI for games is being design for handheld from the get go, so big, readable font and icon is by default already there and is made to fit. PC game tend to made for either a 24inch or so monitor or big tv for couch gaming, games that doesn't have UI accessibility option on a handheld PC is unplayable for a lot of people.
Also that damn controller can be split so coop is so accessible. Not to mention that first party games.
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with consoles, it's 100% of the time
Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole "consoles are 100%!" idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.
People buying the console for the games that are on that console, not generations before, are 100% fine.
Beside, it's not something you have to fiddle with to get it work. Either a patch come, or you're on your own.
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Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.
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People buying the console for the games that are on that console, not generations before, are 100% fine.
Beside, it's not something you have to fiddle with to get it work. Either a patch come, or you're on your own.
not generations before
If by "Generations" you mean the literal previous generation that was advertised as backwards compatible and where many of the games won't receive specific patches precisely because running natively and better was one of the key features of the new console... Sure, I guess.
