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    As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I'm saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    Fuck

    That

    Shit

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that's it, can't hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person's net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    With this we don't have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we'll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won't. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it's not is a cancer on humanity.

    This "quadrillion" asshole is a clear and present danger to humanity, it's the seed of a cancer that will destroy us all.

  • Like a block chain - like system where each site gets listed.

    Oh Hells no, no blockchain. Like AI, its worthless, beyond extremely inefficient, and people have been desperately trying to cram it into everything where it doesn't belong.

    Search doesn't need a block chain.

    I'm imagining more a federated system, like Lemmy. Currently it aggregates posts from different servers, I can see these servers actively spiderii the Internet and together making a whole.

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    But Google’s guidance was also telling us that recovery was possible if we just “removed” our “unhelpful” on-page content:

    This is very chilling because it means websites will delete content. If the internet archive didn't grab it in time it means knowledge is gone forever. An algorithm is not going to always be accurate in determining what is helpful.

  • But Google’s guidance was also telling us that recovery was possible if we just “removed” our “unhelpful” on-page content:

    This is very chilling because it means websites will delete content. If the internet archive didn't grab it in time it means knowledge is gone forever. An algorithm is not going to always be accurate in determining what is helpful.

    That's right. It's why I began donating to the IA recently.

  • And there's still web directories hanging around, similar to the now dead dmoz site.

    https://url.town/ and https://curlie.org/ for example

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    JFC if there a uBlock list I can add to block most AI crap or do I have to get a new addon for that?

  • JFC if there a uBlock list I can add to block most AI crap or do I have to get a new addon for that?

    Yes but also stop using Google

  • Yes but also stop using Google

    Ublock exists on multiple browsers.

  • We need other ways to discover shit on the internet.

    I don't know, maybe bring back the fucking webrings or something.

    Webrings were so good, I would spend hours clicking through them

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I'm saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    Fuck

    That

    Shit

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that's it, can't hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person's net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    With this we don't have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we'll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won't. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it's not is a cancer on humanity.

    This "quadrillion" asshole is a clear and present danger to humanity, it's the seed of a cancer that will destroy us all.

    As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I’m saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    No, it don't for the simple reason that for them to be in the quadrillion dollars someone should be able to buy/use/rent whatever they do.
    And they know this even if they don't say it.

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person’s net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    Instead of these stupid ideas, what about closing all the loopholes that allow these companies to not pay taxes ? It seem simpler and more effective.

    BTW, all your ideas would work only in a socialist country where the state control what the people do. When you say

    When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    what about a guy that want to do that job but then can't ? He start a new company (but is he able to do so ?) Or the state plan what everyone must do ?

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    True, the current system has a lot of problems, but you don't solve them simply not allowing a company to become too big hoping that this will lead to a multitude of smaller companies.

    With this we don’t have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we’ll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won’t. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    Nope, you hope so but you have no evidence that it would happen, not even theoretical. And such solution would work only if it is applied world wide, if you apply only to US (or any other country or area like EU) your companies would be crushed from the bigger ones that your laws cannot touch.

    Or are you proposing isolationism as the default for every nation in the world ? Are you sure it is a better option ?

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it’s not is a cancer on humanity.

    But everybody has the right to try to be one as long as he follow the rules.

    So the problem, maybe, is that we should start to ask for laws that force these big companies to follow the rules everyone else play by instead of asking to destroy companies that became that big because the laws are bad.

  • Yes but also stop using Google

    Fwiw, I've been enjoying qwant for a few months now.

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    This is why I shut The Den of Amateur Writing down after 25 years of running and developing it. I had written the entire codebase for Googles SEO, rolled out the update so my users would see a bit more traffic trickle in, and then watched them delist all my URLs 3 months later when this change rolled out. I just gave up. It was taking way too much of my life fighting googles bullshit to provide a free community.

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I'm saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    Fuck

    That

    Shit

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that's it, can't hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person's net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    With this we don't have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we'll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won't. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it's not is a cancer on humanity.

    This "quadrillion" asshole is a clear and present danger to humanity, it's the seed of a cancer that will destroy us all.

    None of your proposals would work for long, they only touch symptons of the real problem. We should be dismantling capitalism. It's the system itselft that allows the massive unequality we see around us, and it's by design.

  • We need other ways to discover shit on the internet.

    I remember seeing a few days ago that Microsoft would be closing down its Bing API. I wonder how DDG will handle that.

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I’m saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    No, it don't for the simple reason that for them to be in the quadrillion dollars someone should be able to buy/use/rent whatever they do.
    And they know this even if they don't say it.

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person’s net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    Instead of these stupid ideas, what about closing all the loopholes that allow these companies to not pay taxes ? It seem simpler and more effective.

    BTW, all your ideas would work only in a socialist country where the state control what the people do. When you say

    When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    what about a guy that want to do that job but then can't ? He start a new company (but is he able to do so ?) Or the state plan what everyone must do ?

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    True, the current system has a lot of problems, but you don't solve them simply not allowing a company to become too big hoping that this will lead to a multitude of smaller companies.

    With this we don’t have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we’ll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won’t. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    Nope, you hope so but you have no evidence that it would happen, not even theoretical. And such solution would work only if it is applied world wide, if you apply only to US (or any other country or area like EU) your companies would be crushed from the bigger ones that your laws cannot touch.

    Or are you proposing isolationism as the default for every nation in the world ? Are you sure it is a better option ?

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it’s not is a cancer on humanity.

    But everybody has the right to try to be one as long as he follow the rules.

    So the problem, maybe, is that we should start to ask for laws that force these big companies to follow the rules everyone else play by instead of asking to destroy companies that became that big because the laws are bad.

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn't destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family. The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone's freedom to amass wealth. They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

  • This is why I shut The Den of Amateur Writing down after 25 years of running and developing it. I had written the entire codebase for Googles SEO, rolled out the update so my users would see a bit more traffic trickle in, and then watched them delist all my URLs 3 months later when this change rolled out. I just gave up. It was taking way too much of my life fighting googles bullshit to provide a free community.

    I'd not heard of your site before, but it sounds like it was a cool thing while it lasted. That seems to be the trend of the day. The cool things are giving way to very dumb things.

  • I'd not heard of your site before, but it sounds like it was a cool thing while it lasted. That seems to be the trend of the day. The cool things are giving way to very dumb things.

    It really was a great thing. It happened naturally too. Started as just a site I posted my writing to, a personal site in 1997, and friends wanted to add their stuff. By 1999 it was renamed from Routhy's Den to the Den of Amateur Poetry, and then the domain was purchased and the site renamed to The Den of Amateur Writing.

    I still remember the pre-PHP days. People would email their works to me and I would manually build an HTML page and update the site within 24 hours.

  • Webrings were so good, I would spend hours clicking through them

    Man I miss Webrings.

  • You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn't destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family. The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone's freedom to amass wealth. They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn’t destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family.

    Genius, the problem is not that they are billionaire but that they can legally avoid to pay the taxes. I don't care how much money you do as long as you pay the taxes. Same for them.

    And you already can begin to trash them: stop using their products/services.

    The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone’s freedom to amass wealth.

    The two are not mutually exclusive.

    They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

    Ok, got it. Envy is bad.

  • None of your proposals would work for long, they only touch symptons of the real problem. We should be dismantling capitalism. It's the system itselft that allows the massive unequality we see around us, and it's by design.

    Bullshit

    Capitalism at its core that you allow free trading. And. It. Has. Been. Successful. Capitalism is what killed the USSR by sheer force.

    The problem arises when it's not controlled at all. Apply those rules well and you get a powerhouse generating huge progress for everyone and the taxes and all will be able to pay for the social security network on top of that ensuring nobody gets left behind

    You can go to communism Island if you want and suffer under economic mismanagent, bit I'd rather have capitalism, thank you

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    That update though: "... completely removed..." I assume this is because someone at Meta realized this was a huge breach of trust, and likely quite illegal. Edit: I read somewhere that they're just being cautious about Google Play terms of service. That feels worse.
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    It’s funny how the article asks the question, but completely fails to answer it. About 15 years ago, Nvidia discovered there was a demand for compute in datacenters that could be met with powerful GPU’s, and they were quick to respond to it, and they had the resources to focus on it strongly, because of their huge success and high profitability in the GPU market. AMD also saw the market, and wanted to pursue it, but just over a decade ago where it began to clearly show the high potential for profitability, AMD was near bankrupt, and was very hard pressed to finance developments on GPU and compute in datacenters. AMD really tried the best they could, and was moderately successful from a technology perspective, but Nvidia already had a head start, and the proprietary development system CUDA was already an established standard that was very hard to penetrate. Intel simply fumbled the ball from start to finish. After a decade of trying to push ARM down from having the mobile crown by far, investing billions or actually the equivalent of ARM’s total revenue. They never managed to catch up to ARM despite they had the better production process at the time. This was the main focus of Intel, and Intel believed that GPU would never be more than a niche product. So when intel tried to compete on compute for datacenters, they tried to do it with X86 chips, One of their most bold efforts was to build a monstrosity of a cluster of Celeron chips, which of course performed laughably bad compared to Nvidia! Because as it turns out, the way forward at least for now, is indeed the massively parralel compute capability of a GPU, which Nvidia has refined for decades, only with (inferior) competition from AMD. But despite the lack of competition, Nvidia did not slow down, in fact with increased profits, they only grew bolder in their efforts. Making it even harder to catch up. Now AMD has had more money to compete for a while, and they do have some decent compute units, but Nvidia remains ahead and the CUDA problem is still there, so for AMD to really compete with Nvidia, they have to be better to attract customers. That’s a very tall order against Nvidia that simply seems to never stop progressing. So the only other option for AMD is to sell a bit cheaper. Which I suppose they have to. AMD and Intel were the obvious competitors, everybody else is coming from even further behind. But if I had to make a bet, it would be on Huawei. Huawei has some crazy good developers, and Trump is basically forcing them to figure it out themselves, because he is blocking Huawei and China in general from using both AMD and Nvidia AI chips. And the chips will probably be made by Chinese SMIC, because they are also prevented from using advanced production in the west, most notably TSMC. China will prevail, because it’s become a national project, of both prestige and necessity, and they have a massive talent mass and resources, so nothing can stop it now. IMO USA would clearly have been better off allowing China to use American chips. Now China will soon compete directly on both production and design too.
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    No, just laminated ones. Closed at one end. Easy enough to make or buy. You can even improvise the propellant.
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    IMO it was already shitty.
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    You seem to think we disagree on creation of a police state or massive surveillance system being a bad thing for some reason. None of which are stopped with regulations by the states that are funding and building said things ...
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    overseeing product development for Facebook Video So she’s the one who oversaw the misleading Facebook Video numbers that destroyed a whole swath of websites?
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    I applaud this, but I still say it's not far enough. Adjusted, the amount might match, but 121.000 is still easier to cough up for a billionaire than 50 is for a single mother of two who can barely make ends meet