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    But Google’s guidance was also telling us that recovery was possible if we just “removed” our “unhelpful” on-page content:

    This is very chilling because it means websites will delete content. If the internet archive didn't grab it in time it means knowledge is gone forever. An algorithm is not going to always be accurate in determining what is helpful.

  • But Google’s guidance was also telling us that recovery was possible if we just “removed” our “unhelpful” on-page content:

    This is very chilling because it means websites will delete content. If the internet archive didn't grab it in time it means knowledge is gone forever. An algorithm is not going to always be accurate in determining what is helpful.

    That's right. It's why I began donating to the IA recently.

  • And there's still web directories hanging around, similar to the now dead dmoz site.

    https://url.town/ and https://curlie.org/ for example

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    JFC if there a uBlock list I can add to block most AI crap or do I have to get a new addon for that?

  • JFC if there a uBlock list I can add to block most AI crap or do I have to get a new addon for that?

    Yes but also stop using Google

  • Yes but also stop using Google

    Ublock exists on multiple browsers.

  • We need other ways to discover shit on the internet.

    I don't know, maybe bring back the fucking webrings or something.

    Webrings were so good, I would spend hours clicking through them

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I'm saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    Fuck

    That

    Shit

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that's it, can't hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person's net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    With this we don't have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we'll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won't. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it's not is a cancer on humanity.

    This "quadrillion" asshole is a clear and present danger to humanity, it's the seed of a cancer that will destroy us all.

    As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I’m saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    No, it don't for the simple reason that for them to be in the quadrillion dollars someone should be able to buy/use/rent whatever they do.
    And they know this even if they don't say it.

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person’s net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    Instead of these stupid ideas, what about closing all the loopholes that allow these companies to not pay taxes ? It seem simpler and more effective.

    BTW, all your ideas would work only in a socialist country where the state control what the people do. When you say

    When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    what about a guy that want to do that job but then can't ? He start a new company (but is he able to do so ?) Or the state plan what everyone must do ?

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    True, the current system has a lot of problems, but you don't solve them simply not allowing a company to become too big hoping that this will lead to a multitude of smaller companies.

    With this we don’t have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we’ll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won’t. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    Nope, you hope so but you have no evidence that it would happen, not even theoretical. And such solution would work only if it is applied world wide, if you apply only to US (or any other country or area like EU) your companies would be crushed from the bigger ones that your laws cannot touch.

    Or are you proposing isolationism as the default for every nation in the world ? Are you sure it is a better option ?

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it’s not is a cancer on humanity.

    But everybody has the right to try to be one as long as he follow the rules.

    So the problem, maybe, is that we should start to ask for laws that force these big companies to follow the rules everyone else play by instead of asking to destroy companies that became that big because the laws are bad.

  • Yes but also stop using Google

    Fwiw, I've been enjoying qwant for a few months now.

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    This is why I shut The Den of Amateur Writing down after 25 years of running and developing it. I had written the entire codebase for Googles SEO, rolled out the update so my users would see a bit more traffic trickle in, and then watched them delist all my URLs 3 months later when this change rolled out. I just gave up. It was taking way too much of my life fighting googles bullshit to provide a free community.

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I'm saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    Fuck

    That

    Shit

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that's it, can't hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person's net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    With this we don't have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we'll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won't. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it's not is a cancer on humanity.

    This "quadrillion" asshole is a clear and present danger to humanity, it's the seed of a cancer that will destroy us all.

    None of your proposals would work for long, they only touch symptons of the real problem. We should be dismantling capitalism. It's the system itselft that allows the massive unequality we see around us, and it's by design.

  • We need other ways to discover shit on the internet.

    I remember seeing a few days ago that Microsoft would be closing down its Bing API. I wonder how DDG will handle that.

  • As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.”

    Any exec saying remarks like this should be old yellered.

    I’m saying this being fully aware of what I just said, and I say it because of what it implies.

    It requires massive poverty, massive control, massive casualties, people dying from whatever comes with that level of poverty, just so that a few assholes can brag about a quadrillion dollars.

    No, it don't for the simple reason that for them to be in the quadrillion dollars someone should be able to buy/use/rent whatever they do.
    And they know this even if they don't say it.

    We need to start hard capping maximum sizes in companies. No company can employ more than 1000 people. No company can have a net worth of over one billion dollar. When a company goes over the met worth, handle it with taxes. When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    We also need to hard cap personal wealth. Both income and net worth must be taxed in brackets. Nobody should be allowed to own more than 10 million (or whatever is a sane max maybe less, maybe a little bit more)

    The lowest of the low pay no taxes, they have no money to do so. Then the next starts with 5, 10, etc. middle class should pay around 30 like in most countries. After that it goes up and up until you reach 100% for income, and whatever % is required to put the person’s net worth back into that 10 million limit.

    Instead of these stupid ideas, what about closing all the loopholes that allow these companies to not pay taxes ? It seem simpler and more effective.

    BTW, all your ideas would work only in a socialist country where the state control what the people do. When you say

    When it reaches the employee max, that’s it, can’t hire no more.

    what about a guy that want to do that job but then can't ? He start a new company (but is he able to do so ?) Or the state plan what everyone must do ?

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    True, the current system has a lot of problems, but you don't solve them simply not allowing a company to become too big hoping that this will lead to a multitude of smaller companies.

    With this we don’t have a single quadrillion dollar company with a king that will soon enough fail, we’ll have thousands of multi million companies, thousands of owners of which some might fail, others won’t. Tax income will be so much that we can quite easily fund a giant social support system, free healthcare (physical and mental, eyes and teeth), free education, universal income to ensure everyone can live nicely

    Nope, you hope so but you have no evidence that it would happen, not even theoretical. And such solution would work only if it is applied world wide, if you apply only to US (or any other country or area like EU) your companies would be crushed from the bigger ones that your laws cannot touch.

    Or are you proposing isolationism as the default for every nation in the world ? Are you sure it is a better option ?

    NOBODY has the right to be a billionaire, it is not a right, it is not a privilege, it should be forbidden and the very fact that it’s not is a cancer on humanity.

    But everybody has the right to try to be one as long as he follow the rules.

    So the problem, maybe, is that we should start to ask for laws that force these big companies to follow the rules everyone else play by instead of asking to destroy companies that became that big because the laws are bad.

    You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn't destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family. The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone's freedom to amass wealth. They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

  • This is why I shut The Den of Amateur Writing down after 25 years of running and developing it. I had written the entire codebase for Googles SEO, rolled out the update so my users would see a bit more traffic trickle in, and then watched them delist all my URLs 3 months later when this change rolled out. I just gave up. It was taking way too much of my life fighting googles bullshit to provide a free community.

    I'd not heard of your site before, but it sounds like it was a cool thing while it lasted. That seems to be the trend of the day. The cool things are giving way to very dumb things.

  • I'd not heard of your site before, but it sounds like it was a cool thing while it lasted. That seems to be the trend of the day. The cool things are giving way to very dumb things.

    It really was a great thing. It happened naturally too. Started as just a site I posted my writing to, a personal site in 1997, and friends wanted to add their stuff. By 1999 it was renamed from Routhy's Den to the Den of Amateur Poetry, and then the domain was purchased and the site renamed to The Den of Amateur Writing.

    I still remember the pre-PHP days. People would email their works to me and I would manually build an HTML page and update the site within 24 hours.

  • Webrings were so good, I would spend hours clicking through them

    Man I miss Webrings.

  • You are simply trading, by hate and ideology, the freedom of few to be billionaire with the freedom of everyone else to do what they want in their life.

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn't destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family. The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone's freedom to amass wealth. They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

    Da ruski, good job pointing out the actual issue and then moving past it like it doesn’t destroy your argument. To your billionaire owners: we will thresh them just like the tsar and his family.

    Genius, the problem is not that they are billionaire but that they can legally avoid to pay the taxes. I don't care how much money you do as long as you pay the taxes. Same for them.

    And you already can begin to trash them: stop using their products/services.

    The freedom from oppression exceeds anyone’s freedom to amass wealth.

    The two are not mutually exclusive.

    They will pay for their success either by death or taxes and I really dont care which one

    Ok, got it. Envy is bad.

  • None of your proposals would work for long, they only touch symptons of the real problem. We should be dismantling capitalism. It's the system itselft that allows the massive unequality we see around us, and it's by design.

    Bullshit

    Capitalism at its core that you allow free trading. And. It. Has. Been. Successful. Capitalism is what killed the USSR by sheer force.

    The problem arises when it's not controlled at all. Apply those rules well and you get a powerhouse generating huge progress for everyone and the taxes and all will be able to pay for the social security network on top of that ensuring nobody gets left behind

    You can go to communism Island if you want and suffer under economic mismanagent, bit I'd rather have capitalism, thank you

  • Bullshit

    Capitalism at its core that you allow free trading. And. It. Has. Been. Successful. Capitalism is what killed the USSR by sheer force.

    The problem arises when it's not controlled at all. Apply those rules well and you get a powerhouse generating huge progress for everyone and the taxes and all will be able to pay for the social security network on top of that ensuring nobody gets left behind

    You can go to communism Island if you want and suffer under economic mismanagent, bit I'd rather have capitalism, thank you

    You can go to communism Island if you want

    Despite all the propaganda, there is no place right now on the face of our planet that is under communism.

    bit [sic] I’d rather have capitalism, thank you

    Well, aren't you fortunate, you already have all the capitalism you want, anywhere you go. Choke on it.

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    The title at least dont say anything new AFAIK. Because you could already download from external sources but those apps still needed to be signed by apple. But maybe they changed?
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    So you pay taxes to Putin. Good to know who actually helps funding the regime. I suggest you go someplace else. I won't take this from a jerk from likely one of the countries buying fossil fuels from said regime, that have also supported it after a few falsified elections starting in 1996, which is also the year I was born. And of course "paying taxes to Putin" can't be even compared to what TG is doing, so just shut up and go do something you know how to do, like I dunno what.
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    I remember an Arthur Clarke novel where a space ship needs water from the planet below. The easiest thing is to lower cables from space and then lift some ice bergs.
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    https://archive.org/details/swgrap
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    I give it 5 years before this is on our phones.
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    Oh, I get it. You're a purposefully ignorant dumbass.
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    (Premise - suppose I accept that there is such a definable thing as capitalism) I'm not sure why you feel the need to state this in a discussion that already assumes it as a necessary precondition of, but, uh, you do you. People blaming capitalism for everything then build a country that imports grain, while before them and after them it’s among the largest exporters on the planet (if we combine Russia and Ukraine for the “after” metric, no pun intended). ...what? What does this have to do with literally anything, much less my comment about innovation/competition? Even setting aside the wild-assed assumptions you're making about me criticizing capitalism means I 'blame [it] for everything', this tirade you've launched into, presumably about Ukraine and the USSR, has no bearing on anything even tangentially related to this conversation. People praising capitalism create conditions in which there’s no reason to praise it. Like, it’s competitive - they kill competitiveness with patents, IP, very complex legal systems. It’s self-regulating and self-optimizing - they make regulations and do bailouts preventing sick companies from dying, make laws after their interests, then reactively make regulations to make conditions with them existing bearable, which have a side effect of killing smaller companies. Please allow me to reiterate: ...what? Capitalists didn't build literally any of those things, governments did, and capitalists have been trying to escape, subvert, or dismantle those systems at every turn, so this... vain, confusing attempt to pin a medal on capitalism's chest for restraining itself is not only wrong, it fails to understand basic facts about history. It's the opposite of self-regulating because it actively seeks to dismantle regulations (environmental, labor, wage, etc), and the only thing it optimizes for is the wealth of oligarchs, and maybe if they're lucky, there will be a few crumbs left over for their simps. That’s the problem, both “socialist” and “capitalist” ideal systems ignore ape power dynamics. I'm going to go ahead an assume that 'the problem' has more to do with assuming that complex interacting systems can be simplified to 'ape (or any other animal's) power dynamics' than with failing to let the richest people just do whatever they want. Such systems should be designed on top of the fact that jungle law is always allowed So we should just be cool with everybody being poor so Jeff Bezos or whoever can upgrade his megayacht to a gigayacht or whatever? Let me say this in the politest way I know how: LOL no. Also, do you remember when I said this? ‘Won’t someone please think of the billionaires’ is wearing kinda thin You know, right before you went on this very long-winded, surreal, barely-coherent ramble? Did you imagine I would be convinced by literally any of it when all it amounts to is one giant, extraneous, tedious equivalent of 'Won't someone please think of the billionaires?' Simp harder and I bet maybe you can get a crumb or two yourself.