Google is going ‘all in’ on AI. It’s part of a troubling trend in big tech
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The physics and perspective are still horrible, every video makes me want to vomit my brain
Only sometimes, with enough generations you can already make indistinguishable videos for the most part. You’re seeing these mistakes because it’s amateurs spending $100 not professionals spending $10k.
Given current rate of pace Veo4 should be out in a couple months.
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The two thing I use most, by far, from Google, is gmail and basic search.
Gmail, I'm looking to move away from it now, but I currently have every little addition to it disabled. Basic inbox and tags, no automatic filtering, no categories, no nothing.
Search, my browser is set to open the "web" tab with the query, no transformation, no summary, no "for you", no AI garbage, no "we thought you wanted video so there's only video in the replies". It still works fine.
Basically, none of what they added for years… maybe decade at this point, had held a glimmer of interest from me. It feels like this trend will continue. I just want something very basic that works.
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They certainly didn't help it by weighing it down with more and more ads.
I think they did more - I vaguely remember them admitting they messed up the search result on purpose so the user will run more queries and will see even more ads.
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Only sometimes, with enough generations you can already make indistinguishable videos for the most part. You’re seeing these mistakes because it’s amateurs spending $100 not professionals spending $10k.
Given current rate of pace Veo4 should be out in a couple months.
I was referring to the demos shown at I/O, my brain seems to see them all as “flat”, it’s like a reverse magic eye thing. It reminds me of the uncomfortableness of a fever dream. I may be the exception tbf!
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Well one of the big problems with it is it's never properly configured. One of the most annoying things that it does is that it generates tasks only when previous tasks are closed, in theory that makes sense but really the result is that you close a task, and then you have to go looking in the ticket queue for the new task it's just generated, so you can close that one too. Total waste of time.
I guess that makes some sense, I loathe Jira but I think it's largely because everywhere I've worked that uses Jira has poorly customized it and just ruined the experience.
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Yes it does. It’s one component of a broader system. The ability to generate helps it interpret. An AGI might use a diffusion model to imagine scenarios, generate visual plans, or process sensory input.
The AGI, by definition, will make something vastly better than diffusion model. That's one of the cornerstones of AGI, it will explode it's capabilities.
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Can confirm. The more you deal with people who have climbed to the tops of corporate ladders, the more it becomes clear that it's all vibes. It's all people telling stories to other people who tell stories about those stories.
The peter principle is wrong - in an oversized corporate structure, there is no upper bound for incompetence. You can keep rising for no reason, because after a certain point other people just trust that you know what you're talking about, and the people that know better work around you instead.
The people beneath you can't trust the people above you enough to explain the situation, the people above you don't really listen to the people beneath you anyway, and so plenty of middle managers just muddle through and constantly make shit up to justify their own existence, while everyone above and below is left in the dark about what's really going on.
Decisions are constantly made by people without any real connection to the consequences, and it shows. With the everything.
the people that know better work around you instead.
In fact one of the ways to work around you that causes the least friction is usually to just get you promoted away from the places where you can do the most direct damage in the area other people on a similar level to you care about.
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But higher quality ≠ more profits
AI apparently makes investors wanna dump in all their money thoWe have to find those investors man… its always those investors investors bla, we have to please them…
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The two thing I use most, by far, from Google, is gmail and basic search.
Gmail, I'm looking to move away from it now, but I currently have every little addition to it disabled. Basic inbox and tags, no automatic filtering, no categories, no nothing.
Search, my browser is set to open the "web" tab with the query, no transformation, no summary, no "for you", no AI garbage, no "we thought you wanted video so there's only video in the replies". It still works fine.
Basically, none of what they added for years… maybe decade at this point, had held a glimmer of interest from me. It feels like this trend will continue. I just want something very basic that works.
Switch over to the Qwant search engine for your basic search and a good email provider like Tutamail or Proton. I have for a few months and there really is no reason to go back. It's simple and it works.
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It was actually a really good product, way better than Facebook, unfortunately if you have a social media platform that's invite only then it's never going to succeed. I really have no idea why they did it like that.
Facebook started out as invite only for a few years so they might have been looking to emulate its early trajectory. Gmail also started that way.
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The AGI, by definition, will make something vastly better than diffusion model. That's one of the cornerstones of AGI, it will explode it's capabilities.
The statement assumes AGI must surpass all narrow models in every domain, but this is not a requirement by definition. AGI is defined by its generality across tasks, not by superiority in each specialized field.
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The statement assumes AGI must surpass all narrow models in every domain, but this is not a requirement by definition. AGI is defined by its generality across tasks, not by superiority in each specialized field.
I stand corrected.
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I stand corrected.
rare talent these days
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I was referring to the demos shown at I/O, my brain seems to see them all as “flat”, it’s like a reverse magic eye thing. It reminds me of the uncomfortableness of a fever dream. I may be the exception tbf!
I showed this one to my friend and she said 'But they faces aren't AI generated, right?'
There's a bit at the end where the spaghetti disappears, the chef walks away a bit quick while still speaking, but otherwise it's nearly flawless.
For scenes with lots of action and complex physics it's still very noticeable
But it's already good enough to replace several scenes in blockbusters. Dream scenes, cut-aways, etc.
Look at this sausage dog
It even gets the audio right when it moves between hardwood and carpet.
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I showed this one to my friend and she said 'But they faces aren't AI generated, right?'
There's a bit at the end where the spaghetti disappears, the chef walks away a bit quick while still speaking, but otherwise it's nearly flawless.
For scenes with lots of action and complex physics it's still very noticeable
But it's already good enough to replace several scenes in blockbusters. Dream scenes, cut-aways, etc.
Look at this sausage dog
It even gets the audio right when it moves between hardwood and carpet.
Thanks! These are all great, the details, everything is very clear and crisp compared to before, hardly any garbledy goop, but I can’t shake the vertigo idk
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Guess my next phone is coming from Oneplus or Fairphone.
bUt AnDrOiD!!!
...can be chained to its desk and limited, I agree.
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Luckily, 90% of what Google goes all in on fails. I remember Stadia and Google Glass.
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Nothing I can do to resist?
I admire your optimism, but we are pissing in the wind.
Microsoft is shoving this copilot in all its products? Alright, Linux and open source it is.
Windows 11 is forcing people to throw away functional computers that Microsoft seems "not secure enough" (it's lacking TMP 2.0)
This means you can get a great deal on one of these "inscure pc"... but in the long run your pc now and tomorrow will have TPM. As time progresses, the use of TPM/attestation will become more and more entrenched in application, web pages, everything. ... and Linux, with its 4% user base, will be left out in cold.
Google is bugging with its spyware? Well, I only use a Pixel phone, and ironically, its the best phone to put GrapheneOS on it.
Currently, many banking apps won't run on Graphene (or any custom firmware) due to attestation.
Graphene issued calls for help, because Google is restricting public access to the latest android source code (I cannot find the links atm).
Gmail? I don't remember when I opened mine the last time...
Today things like "email reputation" make it difficult to host your own mail server, so your stuck paying someone who has a better "reputation".
My point is: today, you and I can resist with some (minor) success, but our days are numbered.
You are arguing for the sake of arguing...
TPM has nothing to do with any privacy invasion, AI, or anything bad really. It was conceived by a computer industry consortium called Trusted Computing Group (TCG). It evolved into TPM Main Specification Version 1.2 which was standardized by International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC).
Advancement in technology will always happen, and if your prose is to stop progress, you are up by your own by your own choice. Your argument about TPM is moot.
Quite a lot if banking apps are compatible. If your banking app doesn't work, use the jail/sandbox compatible mode.
The fact that Linux has 2, 3, 4, 64467% has nothing to do with what is available at your disposal. Strawman fallacy here.
No one talked about hosting your own email server, there are alternative to the fucker-corps with privacy in mind.
You, my friend, are already defeated, but rest assured there are a ton of us still on our feet.
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The rich are cashing in our tax dollars to try to automate their control of an enslaved human race.
They will do anything besides just pay taxes and contribute to society
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Nothing I can do to resist?
I admire your optimism, but we are pissing in the wind.
Microsoft is shoving this copilot in all its products? Alright, Linux and open source it is.
Windows 11 is forcing people to throw away functional computers that Microsoft seems "not secure enough" (it's lacking TMP 2.0)
This means you can get a great deal on one of these "inscure pc"... but in the long run your pc now and tomorrow will have TPM. As time progresses, the use of TPM/attestation will become more and more entrenched in application, web pages, everything. ... and Linux, with its 4% user base, will be left out in cold.
Google is bugging with its spyware? Well, I only use a Pixel phone, and ironically, its the best phone to put GrapheneOS on it.
Currently, many banking apps won't run on Graphene (or any custom firmware) due to attestation.
Graphene issued calls for help, because Google is restricting public access to the latest android source code (I cannot find the links atm).
Gmail? I don't remember when I opened mine the last time...
Today things like "email reputation" make it difficult to host your own mail server, so your stuck paying someone who has a better "reputation".
My point is: today, you and I can resist with some (minor) success, but our days are numbered.
We can, but part of it is accepting that our tech will be a decade or two behind. Its not the worst thing. Life is more convenient now, but all in all i think it was better before.
The masses will go for convenient, and thats ok. You have near total control of how you live your life; you just cant have your cake and eat it too is all
