The UK’s Online Safety Act is a licence for censorship – and the rest of the world is following suit
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I don't disagree but you're not going to find a majority that wants to reapply
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It's really simple.
The western democracies want to create a universal digital ID wallet and have that be required to access any site.
There are a lot of reasons they could want this. For example, there are probably tens of millions of fake accounts controlled by adversarial nations which are used to sow extremism and disinformation online. It is impossible for counterintelligence to detect these at scale. We can see the corrosive effects that social media is having on society, there are countries actively working to make the problem worse but we have no tools to stop them.
This is also why there is a big push to limit children from accessing social media. They're often the targets for these campaigns because they're easily manipulated and have a lot of free time to spread the misinformation once they're indoctrinated.
I don't think a digital ID is the way to solve this problem. But, we're not being asked or informed about why it is happening. They're, instead, trying to ram these measures through using moral panic about children so anybody opposing them is easily dismissed as "not caring about The Children" or "supporting sex trafficking/pedophiles/predators".
I understand the situation, but they're trying to go around the democratic process by not talking about the problems.
In the EU similar stuff is promoted by companies wanting to profit from supplying the various required software.
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Okay I wish it would happen, but this doesn't talk what specific terms etc. I still doubt it will happen
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We don’t want this dystopian nightmare either, and just like Brexit we weren’t told what it was before it was too late.
Hopefully you will welcome us back when all the liars are voted out and ignored.we weren’t told what it was before it was too late.
Not that it's different on the continent but you can't expect to be told these things. You gave to gather those informations yourself.
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we weren’t told what it was before it was too late.
Not that it's different on the continent but you can't expect to be told these things. You gave to gather those informations yourself.
Not easy when 7 of the top 8 newspapers are just propaganda for the Tories. You can only convert so many people when entire fear and belief systems have been cultivated over decades.
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FWIW, Denmark has had this digital infrastructure in the last 10 years and it’s been the foundation of a huge transformation in terms of how people interact with the government services.
I don't think anyone has a problem with an ID you need to interact with government services. They know your identity anyway, and for obvious security reasons it's necessary that they properly verify that you are who you claim you are.
What people have a problem with, is needing to provide an ID to simply access whole categories of content across the wide internet that are not related to your identity in any way.
I totally understand that. And FWIW, I used to sit squarely in the camp that this wasn’t just foolish, it was nefarious.
But the challenge is really in how the UK has decided to implement this - zero knowledge proofs should have been a legal requirement like it is the the EU infrastructure regulation.
If there really, truly was no way to tie back proving your age to who proved their age, then surely this is a good thing? The slippery slope argument I understand but it is, at heart, at fallacy. “Well, if you start putting people in prison for murder, then pretty soon you’ll start putting people in prison for breathing”.
I’m obviously against having to prove your identity to access some content. But can I not support having to prove your age (in a fully anonymous way) without automatically saying “let’s know exactly who is accessing what and when”?
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Is there any way to fight chat control in the EU?
Email your MEPs, push back on the narrative that it protects children. IF it even did protect children it would be at the cost of any semblamce of privacy. Politicians are also exempt despite a pedo politician leading a major world power right now.
I got an immediate response explaining their stance is based almost entirely around the disemination of csam.
It is a noble goal but akin to ending traffic deaths by mandating getting and checking the coast is clear every 10 meters.
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the brits really need to learn from the french how to protest. it's been nearly a month and i haven't heard of even a measly car being set on fire, just one petition that got a reply akin to "lol, nah". the french would've set a car on fire for less is all i'm saying
the brits really need to learn from the french how to protest.
You mean like how the french aren't protesting their country's support of Chat Control? At least I can't find any information on them doing so.
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@Pamasich @themachinestops @shneancy usually #france protests against anything
#french #farmer spray #public buildings with #cow #shithttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-farmer-protest-manure-toulouse/ https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1844254/french-farmers-protest-macron-high-tax
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I totally understand that. And FWIW, I used to sit squarely in the camp that this wasn’t just foolish, it was nefarious.
But the challenge is really in how the UK has decided to implement this - zero knowledge proofs should have been a legal requirement like it is the the EU infrastructure regulation.
If there really, truly was no way to tie back proving your age to who proved their age, then surely this is a good thing? The slippery slope argument I understand but it is, at heart, at fallacy. “Well, if you start putting people in prison for murder, then pretty soon you’ll start putting people in prison for breathing”.
I’m obviously against having to prove your identity to access some content. But can I not support having to prove your age (in a fully anonymous way) without automatically saying “let’s know exactly who is accessing what and when”?
If there really, truly was no way to tie back proving your age to who proved their age, then surely this is a good thing?
Still nope.
The government shouldn't be putting up mandatory barriers for what adults watch in the privacy of their own home. It's a huge overreach.
Imagine being an adult in your 40s, living alone without a minor anywhere near you, and having to prove you're an adult with a fucking Android app every time you want to open your liquor cabinet. That's how this feels to me, and I find it extremely offensive. Like, get out of my life.
And then this age gating crap doesn't even solve the problem, and has the potential to make things worse, because only the major players like pornhub and reddit will comply. For shits and giggles, I set my VPN to UK the other day, and was able to find non-age gated porn in no time. So this is just driving minors who want to view porn to more sketchy, less moderated sites.
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