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Google: 'Your $1000 phone needs our permission to install apps now'". Android users are screwed - Louis Rossmann

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  • I can't even follow your arguments anymore.

    As a user, I want as many options as possible, but if I can get a phone that's $100 cheaper because it doesn't have a headphone port, I'll definitely choose that option.

    You're the one that implied headphone jacks add cost to phones. I'm saying that they don't, and whatever cost they do add is minuscule. The implication that any cost savings is being passed to you is laughable.

    Look, they killed the jack because they could save a couple bucks of design time and get a few cubic millimeters of space, but most importantly they could softly force their users to buy wireless headphones (maybe even the ones they sell and bundle?!). The former outcomes being happy accidents in order push the latter. It's win win for them, and lose for the customer.

    They know that their price concious customers are still using wired headphone and unlikely to take them up on their bundle, so they keep including it there. The affluent ones are the ones with cash to burn and little care for this issue. I get you like BT headphones, so do I, but there's simply no good defense for the 3.5mm removal other than shilling.

    You're the one that implied headphone jacks add cost to phones.

    They do.

    I'm saying that they don't, and whatever cost they do add is minuscule.

    Ok.

    The implication that any cost savings is being passed to you is laughable.

    It is, but it isn't a major savings. But, it's hard to know because the pricing of phones isn't very transparent.

    Look, they killed the jack because they could save a couple bucks of design time and get a few cubic millimeters of space

    Yes....

    most importantly they could softly force their users to buy wireless headphones

    Why would they care?

  • Now when you want to take your phone out of your pocket to take a picture of something or scan it for an NFT sale you can't do that easily

    Sure you can. Just unplug the headphones.

    And start blasting whatever you're listening to to the whole world?

    You're either trolling or you've never used wired headphones. Playback stops automatically when you unplug a wired headphone. It's the same thing when you disconnect a bluetooth headphone.

    You're cooking in a kitchen. There are loud fans, loud kettles. Why would you use a speaker that you have to turn way up to blast over all that noise?

    Wtf? Lol. If you're kitchen is that loud, something's wrong with it.

    or doing NFT transactions. You really haven't thought this through, have you?

    Yeah, you're either trolling or a very special kind of person.

    Sure you can. Just unplug the headphones.

    First you have to stop whatever you're listening to or you start playing it on a speaker for everyone. Doing that is an annoyance that you don't need to put up with if you just use wireless headphones.

    Playback stops automatically when you unplug a wired headphone

    Maybe it does today, I don't know, I haven't used wired headphones in many years. Back in the day it didn't.

    Wtf? Lol. If you're kitchen is that loud, something's wrong with it.

    If you are kitchen is quiet, you really should be using the fan to get the smoke and food smells out of the kitchen. Maybe if you're just making pop-tarts then it isn't a big deal, but if you actually ever do any serious cooking you'll discover that it gets loud.

    Yeah, you're either trolling or a very special kind of person.

    Why are you so scared of the modern world? Is it that you're too confused by it all? Can't handle touchscreens? Scared by https? It's ok man, just take a course. You'll learn to live in the present, not the past.

  • Apple now allows sideloading of apps and Google is trying to get rid of sideloading.

    What... the Fuck?

    To be fair, they are now both on the same level. Both now allow sideloading from "trusted" sources, aka developers verified by Apple/Google.

  • > be me
    > buy new phone, chose android cause I can install anything on it
    > get free iphone from work
    > sell iphone on ebay cause I can install anything I want on my android
    > google doesnt want me to install anything I want

    Fuck me. I kept the wrong phone.

    They are both now on the same level. Both iPhone and Android now allow sideloading of apps of "trusted" developers, so developers verified by Google/Apple.

  • We're just not gonna see eye to eye on this.

    I want privacy and freedom. You want Google to dictate what apps you can use even though it doesn't effect you.

    You don't give a shit about people who rely on apps that aren't from the play store. You cant seem to understand why it's bad because it won't effect you. It's selfish

    You've put a whole lot of words in my mouth I didn't say. I just don't see it "necessary" as a bad thing, you can still install apps via side loading, but now you can feel comfortable that if you install an app that steals all your passwords you can actually point a finger at who did it and hold them to account. Not that I wish that on anyone.

  • Yes, replaceable batteries!

    Replaceable batteries in my phone, to power my wired headphones lol

  • It used to be a pocket computer, now its just a mini-prison-cell.

    If anyone is using currently using a flagship phone, when your phone dies and you need a replacement: consider just getting a cheap $100 android phone then spend the rest of the money you would've spent on a flagship on a portable PC instead

    Spot on! +1

  • There isn’t barely any good alternative for smartphones. Tech companies and CEO’s are now what the Church and the Pope were in the Middle Ages. Both keep the masses dumb, ignorant and hateful.

    How good do they need to be? What about Ericsson?

  • Removable batteries are coming back, as they become mandatory in the EU in 2027.
    Or you can already get one with a Fairphone (which also has SD card slot).
    As for the headphone jack, I'm afraid it won't come back. Bluetooth alternatives are far better these days (I got both, so I know from experience), and good adapters (like Apple one) are barely more than $10.

    The removable batteries coming back would also impact the iPhone, which actually respects user privacy because Apple is not a marketing company. Apple is a products and services company, they sell tech devices and make a lot of money on services like Apple Music and TV+ and such. It's expensive for a reason; you can even take the encryption keys out of Apple's hands for iCloud so you genuinely are fully protected

  • It's time to start self hosting your own services people!

    I been doin it for years already!! It's easy to just set up a 4-bay NAS with docker containers running apps that replace your existing cloud services