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  • We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

    I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

    MY OPINION:

    "Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted.<br>
    This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

    Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

    Another alt-right crybaby?

  • Another alt-right crybaby?

    Don't know TBH, he's the least annoying but smug regardless, so yeah Kinda I guess

  • We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

    I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

    MY OPINION:

    "Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted.<br>
    This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

    Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

    He wouldn't have any problem whatsoever if Debian was publicly endorsing right wing views and losing leftist contributors.

    Linux and the GPL FOSS movement is inherently leftist, snd right wingers have been wailing about leftist views in various FOSS projects for over a decade. I recall many threads on reddit accusing Linus of having been made 'woke' by his daughter when the CoC was introduced, back during the gamergate era.

    It's all the same shit, all the same complaints, and all a waste of time. As the US descends into extreme fascism to the cries of approval of the MAGA cult, it becomes harder and harder to stomach them in a project.

    The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

  • He wouldn't have any problem whatsoever if Debian was publicly endorsing right wing views and losing leftist contributors.

    Linux and the GPL FOSS movement is inherently leftist, snd right wingers have been wailing about leftist views in various FOSS projects for over a decade. I recall many threads on reddit accusing Linus of having been made 'woke' by his daughter when the CoC was introduced, back during the gamergate era.

    It's all the same shit, all the same complaints, and all a waste of time. As the US descends into extreme fascism to the cries of approval of the MAGA cult, it becomes harder and harder to stomach them in a project.

    The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

    The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

    Can you elaborate on this, or point me to where I can read about it? Getting away from AI was a part of the reason I ditched Windows 😕

  • The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

    Can you elaborate on this, or point me to where I can read about it? Getting away from AI was a part of the reason I ditched Windows 😕

    He shows the article, from phoronix, in the video above, and talks about it

  • We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

    I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

    MY OPINION:

    "Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted.<br>
    This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

    Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

    I will never understand why people think FOSS is or should be apolitical.

    FOSS has always been political. It's literally never existed in any other way.

  • I will never understand why people think FOSS is or should be apolitical.

    FOSS has always been political. It's literally never existed in any other way.

    Yes, FOSS has always been political, just not the politics Debian dipped itself.

  • We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

    I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

    MY OPINION:

    "Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted.<br>
    This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

    Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

    open-source supporter and any level of rightwing is self-contradicting

    Nothing surprises me since the YouTube distrotube uploaded a video with his rifle saying that "if you support free software you should support gun rights"

  • We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

    I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

    MY OPINION:

    "Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted.<br>
    This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

    Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

    I was about to watch when I realized who it was. To be honest, many of the Linux YouTubers have turned me off for different reasons, but I never enjoyed this guy's videos and I'm not the only one...

    I guess I should watch this to give a decent opinion. Other distros are just as political and decisions reflect their stance (like how Alpine doesn't include Xlibre for reasons). As it stands, I'm fine with that.

    I am unaware of the particularities surrounding the Debian situation, so I'll still need to play catch up.

  • open-source supporter and any level of rightwing is self-contradicting

    Nothing surprises me since the YouTube distrotube uploaded a video with his rifle saying that "if you support free software you should support gun rights"

    When will these people understand that Gun-Control doesn't mean people won't be able to own guns

  • I will never understand why people think FOSS is or should be apolitical.

    FOSS has always been political. It's literally never existed in any other way.

    Like being neutral is also a political stance. FOSS can never be apolitical

  • I was about to watch when I realized who it was. To be honest, many of the Linux YouTubers have turned me off for different reasons, but I never enjoyed this guy's videos and I'm not the only one...

    I guess I should watch this to give a decent opinion. Other distros are just as political and decisions reflect their stance (like how Alpine doesn't include Xlibre for reasons). As it stands, I'm fine with that.

    I am unaware of the particularities surrounding the Debian situation, so I'll still need to play catch up.

    Trafotin is also not a trust-worthy source to use. This is the same guy that berates forking & attacked Debian & gives horrible privacy & security advices & censors dissent.

    There's a reason his co-ordinated attack didn't work. But he is right about STL.

  • When will these people understand that Gun-Control doesn't mean people won't be able to own guns

    They don't really understand anything because they don't really think. They just repeat what they're told while convincing themselves its an independent thought that appeared in their head as if by magic. These are the people outsourcing most of their thinking these days to ChatGPT, because it's not something they've ever really valued or been interested in doing themselves. Life's a lot easier when you don't have to think about much. They're "doers" not "thinkers". And frankly, it shows. We see an awful lot of stuff getting done right now, and very little thinking.

  • Trafotin is also not a trust-worthy source to use. This is the same guy that berates forking & attacked Debian & gives horrible privacy & security advices & censors dissent.

    There's a reason his co-ordinated attack didn't work. But he is right about STL.

    Oh for sure, they can be aggravating but I haven't watched any of their vids in over a year. I wouldn't take their advice the same as how I wouldn't want anyone to take my advice. Just because someone says they work in IT doesn't mean they do, right? I used to work in a pharmacy and people would ask me for medical advice when they saw me in town, but I didn't work in the dispensary. I knew the answer to their question, but I was not going to risk it.

  • The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

    Can you elaborate on this, or point me to where I can read about it? Getting away from AI was a part of the reason I ditched Windows 😕

    You can read more about it here: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-More-Newcomers-LLMs

    They also seem to have voted on this subject back in may, but I don't know how to find the results: https://www.debian.org/vote/2025/vote_002#secondsa

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    I love this reasoning. Perfectly agree. Must be so unnecessary for large stations. Although I guess this does open up for smaller broadcasters to open news rooms. But yeah, it would sure put me off. I wasn't to see a human speaking to me.
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    Yes, the use of the voice was intentionally misleading. That's why it was decided the way it was.
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    You don't even need a VPN. Only the legit sites will play ball. Porn will still be there.
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    bizarre, dismal What's bizarre and dismal is that someone is so starved for dopamine and attention from corporations that this is how they perceive what life looks like when you are not being targetted. This is my normal view and it is far better.
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    Why are you using quotations marks? On a serious note, Google's bloat isn't inherent to android, their stuff is added on top as apps and services.
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    I spent way too long researching the morning. That industry implies a much greater population that is attracted to children. Things get more nuanced. People are attracted to different stages, like prebubesant, early adolescence, and mid to late adolescence. It seems like an important distinction because this is a common mental disorder. I was ready to write this comment about my fear that there's a bunch of evil pedophiles living among us who are simply deterred by legal or social pressures. It seems more like the extreme stigma of pedophilia has prevented individuals from seeking assistance and has resulted in more child sexual abuse. This sort of disorder can be caused by experiencing this abuse at a younger age. When I was religious, we worked closely with an organization to help victims of trafficking. We had their stories. They entered our lives. I took care of some of these kids. As a victim of sexual abuse when I was kid, I had a hatred for these kinds of people. I feel like my brain is melting seeing how there is a high chance of people in my life being attracted to children. This isn't really to justify the industry. I'm just realizing that general harassing people openly about it might not be helping the situation.
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    Sorry for the late reply, I had to sit and think on this one for a little bit. I think there are would be a few things going on when it comes to designing a course to teach critical thinking, nuances, and originality; and they each have their own requirements. For critical thinking: The main goal is to provide students with a toolbelt for solving various problems. Then instilling the habit of always asking "does this match the expected outcome? What was I expecting?". So usually courses will be setup so students learn about a tool, practice using the tool, then have a culminating assignment on using all the tools. Ideally, the problems students face at the end require multiple tools to solve. Nuance mainly naturally comes with exposure to the material from a professional - The way a mechanical engineer may describe building a desk will probably differ greatly compared to a fantasy author. You can also explain definitions and industry standards; but thats really dry. So I try to teach nuances via definitions by mixing in the weird nuances as much as possible with jokes. Then for originality; I've realized I dont actually look for an original idea; but something creative. In a classroom setting, you're usually learning new things about a subject so a student's knowledge of that space is usually very limited. Thus, an idea that they've never heard about may be original to them, but common for an industry expert. For teaching originality creativity, I usually provide time to be creative & think, and provide open ended questions as prompts to explore ideas. My courses that require originality usually have it as a part of the culminating assignment at the end where they can apply their knowledge. I'll also add in time where students can come to me with preliminary ideas and I can provide feedback on whether or not it passes the creative threshold. Not all ideas are original, but I sometimes give a bit of slack if its creative enough. The amount of course overhauling to get around AI really depends on the material being taught. For example, in programming - you teach critical thinking by always testing your code, even with parameters that don't make sense. For example: Try to add 123 + "skibbidy", and see what the program does.
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    Fantastic! Me and my 7 legs tank you so much!