OpenAI’s Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
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"Hey guys, watch out for this torment nexus. It could be pretty scary!"
So are you going to stop building it then?
"...No."
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"Hey guys, watch out for this torment nexus. It could be pretty scary!"
So are you going to stop building it then?
"...No."
"Did I mention how powerful my products are? Pleeeaaase don't give me money!"
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You missed the part where they lie about dropping the database.
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
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Does anyone actually think he's a genius? He's clearly a moron of the highest degree.
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
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Oh he seriously needs to shut up.
He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.
You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.
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- Create a problem
- Sell a solution
Yeah he's invented the webcam, I suppose we merely have to be thankful that it isn't another train.
- A solution to your problem already exists and has existed for decades
- Create a problem
- Create an unnecessary ugly overhyped solution to the problem
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ha, I thought it was just a movie trope
I wish. My bank has been trying to get me to do that shit for years when I call in.
"YoUr VoIcE iS yOuR pAsSwOrD" - no, my fucking password is my password, and this voice print shit was an obvious security hole from day 1, which is why I always answered that I didn't consent to their bullshit.
There's no way that the phone network has enough fidelity to be able to accurately transmit your voice anyway. People who sound similar to you will be able to get in.
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Even ISPs do this where I am. You don't have to utter anything specifically but if they detect your voice being drastically different from what they have on file, they'll lock you out before you even talk to a real person. Not sure how I feel about it tbh
So don't call them if you've got the flu or anything.
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I followed a different post and replaced AI with cocaine, and it still works in this context.
Yes it's rather like Pablo Escobar going "don't do drugs kids".
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Oh he seriously needs to shut up.
He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.
You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.
I mean it's a valid concern. He's also nowhere near the first to voice it. I attended a presentation from a Microsoft exec who explained that Microsoft had already developed very powerful voice mimicking technology, well ahead of anything public at the time. It required only a few seconds of speech before it could fully replicate your voice. But their ethics board or whatever stopped them, due to the massive fraud risks. Nowadays I think they've adapted the tech to voice recognition used in Teams instead.
Of course, MS wasn't the only one working on this and other people have since published these solutions, so the cat's out of the bag now.
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Does anyone by chance have tips for someone wanting to sound like Mark Hamil Joker via AI? No particular reason...
What Mark Hamill Joker fan doesn't have their own Mark Hamill Joker impression? Screw AI, just do the voice like we've all been doing for 30+ years.
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
AP News (apnews.com)
Month later
Oh by the way, just conveniently, we have this new product which can take care of this problem for you.
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ha, I thought it was just a movie trope
I wish. My bank has been trying to get me to do that shit for years when I call in.
"YoUr VoIcE iS yOuR pAsSwOrD" - no, my fucking password is my password, and this voice print shit was an obvious security hole from day 1, which is why I always answered that I didn't consent to their bullshit.
I argued with my old bank for ages about this and they continued to insist enabling it on my account was a great idea.
The film Sneakers showed the world why voice ID was a massive security hole and an all-around crappy idea back in 1992, and some idiots are still insisting it's a good idea in 2025 when it's only become astronomically easier to beat than Robert Redford and friends demonstrated.
In my case, I've been doing radio, podcasting, and other voice work for a long time and as a result there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of my voice freely available out there. People can cut and paste me saying "my voice is my passport, verify me" or anything else they like together in Audacity, no AI needed, and fool any telephone-based audio security computer on the planet with it. And explaining this in-person to the branch manager of my former bank elicited nothing more than the blankest expression I'd seen since the pet goldfish I had as a kid.
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There's no way that the phone network has enough fidelity to be able to accurately transmit your voice anyway. People who sound similar to you will be able to get in.
Exactly. It always seemed like something that would be broken and used as an excuse that it was my fault they didn't secure their shit
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
AP News (apnews.com)
Oh no, this tool that EVERY FUCKING ONE said would be very helpful for fraudsters and scammers is going to cause a crisis! WHO COULDA PREDITED IT???????????
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Oh he seriously needs to shut up.
He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.
You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.
the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.
I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.
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OpenAI's Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warns of a looming fraud crisis in the financial industry due to AI's ability to mimic voices.
AP News (apnews.com)
You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.
Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.
I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).
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the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.
I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.
Open AI started it though. They published the original research paper that made all of this possible.
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I am the system administrator. My voice is my
passwordpassport. Verify me.*passport
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*passport
Been way too long since I played that game. Amusingly, it's not easy to get running on Linux (last time I checked, at least)