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    I loved writing essays and see the value for a student in knowing how to state a case and back it up with evidence, what counts as evidence, and the importance of clearly communicating the ideas.

    That said, I also use AI to write copy daily and the most important thing for anyone's cognition is critical thinking and reading comprehension, both of which AI is going to teach us whether we want it or not. Critical analysis is the only way we can navigate the future.

    Maybe this is another Great Filter for technologically advancing critters?

  • There are kids who find exercise soul-crushing vapid toiling too.

    Just for some perspective on “what’s good for you.” I personally think I’d have been more successful in life if I was better at essay writing. But I’m not sure if it’s a practice thing, or an innate ability thing. I have to assume I just need(ed) lots more practice and guidance.

    I’m also on a similar path right now learning more about programming. AI is helping me understand larger structures, and reinforcing my understanding and use of coding terminology. Even if I’m not writing code, I need to be able to talk about it a bit better to interact with the AI optimally.

    But this need to speak in a more optimum way may go away as AI gets better. That’s the thing I worry about, the AI crossing a threshold where you can kind of just grunt at it and get what you want. But maybe Idiocracy is on my mind there.

    … just some random thoughts.

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    I'm still looking for a good reason to believe critical thinking and intelligence are taking a dive. It's so very easy to claim the kids aren't all right. But I wish someone would check. An interview with the gpt cheaters? A survey checking that those brilliant essays aren't from people using better prompts? Let's hear from the kids! Everyone knows nobody asked us when we were being turned into ungrammatical zombies by spell check/grammar check/texting/video content/ipads/the calculator.

  • I loved writing essays and see the value for a student in knowing how to state a case and back it up with evidence, what counts as evidence, and the importance of clearly communicating the ideas.

    That said, I also use AI to write copy daily and the most important thing for anyone's cognition is critical thinking and reading comprehension, both of which AI is going to teach us whether we want it or not. Critical analysis is the only way we can navigate the future.

    Maybe this is another Great Filter for technologically advancing critters?

    I hated writing pointless essays about topics I don't care about, and yet I still like to research and debate.

  • There are kids who find exercise soul-crushing vapid toiling too.

    Just for some perspective on “what’s good for you.” I personally think I’d have been more successful in life if I was better at essay writing. But I’m not sure if it’s a practice thing, or an innate ability thing. I have to assume I just need(ed) lots more practice and guidance.

    I’m also on a similar path right now learning more about programming. AI is helping me understand larger structures, and reinforcing my understanding and use of coding terminology. Even if I’m not writing code, I need to be able to talk about it a bit better to interact with the AI optimally.

    But this need to speak in a more optimum way may go away as AI gets better. That’s the thing I worry about, the AI crossing a threshold where you can kind of just grunt at it and get what you want. But maybe Idiocracy is on my mind there.

    … just some random thoughts.

    The problem with AI here is that it tends to prefer agreeing to you over being correct and it's very likely that it teaches patterns and terminology to you that doesn't exist.

    For example, I just asked ChatGPT to explain a "backflip" in the context of agile development (I claimed I was an university student and that a teacher used that term in the context of moving tickets), and it came up with this:

    If your teacher linked "backflip" to moving tickets in a predictable fashion, they might have been emphasizing:

    The importance of minimizing rework or regressions.

    Understanding why work items move backward (if they do) and making that visible in your process.

    Managing workflow policies so that tickets don’t repeatedly “backflip” between stages, which can disrupt predictability.

    How This Might Help You Move Tickets More Predictably:
    If "backflip" means work moving backward:

    Track the Cause of Backflips:
    Identify why tickets are moving backward (incomplete acceptance criteria, insufficient definition of done, unclear requirements).

    Improve Definition of Ready/Done:
    Tighten entry/exit criteria to reduce backflows.

    Add Checkpoints:
    Build small validation steps earlier to catch issues sooner.

    Visualize Flow:
    Use a Kanban board to visualize backward movement and analyze bottlenecks or quality gaps.

    It just takes the nonsensical word, makes something up, and claims that it's right.

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    Another look at students, AI, and Essays on the Search Engine podcast. "What should we do about teens using AI to do their homework?"

    Opinions from students and experts.

    Podcast episode webpage

    Podcast file

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    Once again I'll say, I'm perfectly fine with the death of the essay as viable school homework.

    In my experience, teachers graded only on grammar and formatting. Teaching - and more to the point, grading - effective writing skills is harder than nitpicking punctuation, spelling and font choices, so guess what happens more often?

    You want school to mean anything, you're going to have to switch to verbal or demonstrable skills instead of paperwork. Which society probably needs to do anyway.

  • The problem with AI here is that it tends to prefer agreeing to you over being correct and it's very likely that it teaches patterns and terminology to you that doesn't exist.

    For example, I just asked ChatGPT to explain a "backflip" in the context of agile development (I claimed I was an university student and that a teacher used that term in the context of moving tickets), and it came up with this:

    If your teacher linked "backflip" to moving tickets in a predictable fashion, they might have been emphasizing:

    The importance of minimizing rework or regressions.

    Understanding why work items move backward (if they do) and making that visible in your process.

    Managing workflow policies so that tickets don’t repeatedly “backflip” between stages, which can disrupt predictability.

    How This Might Help You Move Tickets More Predictably:
    If "backflip" means work moving backward:

    Track the Cause of Backflips:
    Identify why tickets are moving backward (incomplete acceptance criteria, insufficient definition of done, unclear requirements).

    Improve Definition of Ready/Done:
    Tighten entry/exit criteria to reduce backflows.

    Add Checkpoints:
    Build small validation steps earlier to catch issues sooner.

    Visualize Flow:
    Use a Kanban board to visualize backward movement and analyze bottlenecks or quality gaps.

    It just takes the nonsensical word, makes something up, and claims that it's right.

    I believe you and agree.

    I have to be carful to not ask the AI leading questions. It’s very happy to go off and fix things that don’t need fixing when I suggest there is a bug, but in reality it’s user error or a configuration error on my part.

    It’s so eager to please.

  • I believe you and agree.

    I have to be carful to not ask the AI leading questions. It’s very happy to go off and fix things that don’t need fixing when I suggest there is a bug, but in reality it’s user error or a configuration error on my part.

    It’s so eager to please.

    Yeah, as soon as the question could be interpreted as leading, it will directly follow your lead.

    I had a weird issue with Github the other day, and after Google and the documentation failed me, I asked ChatGPT as a last-ditch effort.

    My issue was that some file that really can't have an empty newline at the end had an empty newline at the end, no matter what I did to the files before committing. I figured, that something was adding a newline and ChatGPT confirmed that almost enthusiastically. It was so sure that Github did that and told me that it's a frequent complaint.

    Turns out, no, it doesn't. All that happened is that I first committed the file with an empty newline by accident, and Github raw files has a caching mechanism that's set to quite a long time. So all I had to do was to just wait for a bit.

    Wasted about an hour of my time.

  • The problem with AI here is that it tends to prefer agreeing to you over being correct and it's very likely that it teaches patterns and terminology to you that doesn't exist.

    For example, I just asked ChatGPT to explain a "backflip" in the context of agile development (I claimed I was an university student and that a teacher used that term in the context of moving tickets), and it came up with this:

    If your teacher linked "backflip" to moving tickets in a predictable fashion, they might have been emphasizing:

    The importance of minimizing rework or regressions.

    Understanding why work items move backward (if they do) and making that visible in your process.

    Managing workflow policies so that tickets don’t repeatedly “backflip” between stages, which can disrupt predictability.

    How This Might Help You Move Tickets More Predictably:
    If "backflip" means work moving backward:

    Track the Cause of Backflips:
    Identify why tickets are moving backward (incomplete acceptance criteria, insufficient definition of done, unclear requirements).

    Improve Definition of Ready/Done:
    Tighten entry/exit criteria to reduce backflows.

    Add Checkpoints:
    Build small validation steps earlier to catch issues sooner.

    Visualize Flow:
    Use a Kanban board to visualize backward movement and analyze bottlenecks or quality gaps.

    It just takes the nonsensical word, makes something up, and claims that it's right.

    The joke is on you (and all of us) though. I'm going to start using "backflip" in my agile process terminology.

  • I'm still looking for a good reason to believe critical thinking and intelligence are taking a dive. It's so very easy to claim the kids aren't all right. But I wish someone would check. An interview with the gpt cheaters? A survey checking that those brilliant essays aren't from people using better prompts? Let's hear from the kids! Everyone knows nobody asked us when we were being turned into ungrammatical zombies by spell check/grammar check/texting/video content/ipads/the calculator.

    IMO, kids use ChatGPT because they are aware enough to understand that the degree is what really matters in our society, so putting in the effort to understand the material when they could put in way less effort and still pass is a waste of effort.

    We all understand what the goal of school should be, but that learning doesn't really align with the arbitrary measurements we use to track learning.

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    Lots I disagree with in this article, but I agree with the message.

    On another note, I found this section very funny:

    Disgraced cryptocurrency swindler Sam Bankman-Fried, for example, once told an interviewer the following, thereby helpfully outing himself as an idiot.

    “I would never read a book…I’m very skeptical of books. I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. I think, if you wrote a book, you fucked up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.”

    Extend his prison sentence.

  • Lots I disagree with in this article, but I agree with the message.

    On another note, I found this section very funny:

    Disgraced cryptocurrency swindler Sam Bankman-Fried, for example, once told an interviewer the following, thereby helpfully outing himself as an idiot.

    “I would never read a book…I’m very skeptical of books. I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. I think, if you wrote a book, you fucked up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.”

    Extend his prison sentence.

    Initially I thought it was something like Aurelius' diary entry on not spending too much in books and living in the moment. Nope, he's just lazy. I have a friend like that, who reads AI summaries instead of the actual articles. Infuriating to say the least.

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    It's sad because for most people school is about the only time anybody cares enough about your thoughts to actually read an essay and respond to it intelligently.

  • Lots I disagree with in this article, but I agree with the message.

    On another note, I found this section very funny:

    Disgraced cryptocurrency swindler Sam Bankman-Fried, for example, once told an interviewer the following, thereby helpfully outing himself as an idiot.

    “I would never read a book…I’m very skeptical of books. I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. I think, if you wrote a book, you fucked up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.”

    Extend his prison sentence.

    Yes but let him take time off for reading and shiwing ge comprehends good books.

    In a way you or i could knock out in like a really nice month full of cocoa and paper smells.

    He will die in a cage.

  • Once again I'll say, I'm perfectly fine with the death of the essay as viable school homework.

    In my experience, teachers graded only on grammar and formatting. Teaching - and more to the point, grading - effective writing skills is harder than nitpicking punctuation, spelling and font choices, so guess what happens more often?

    You want school to mean anything, you're going to have to switch to verbal or demonstrable skills instead of paperwork. Which society probably needs to do anyway.

    Or you let radicals be teachers, and you let teachers put some fuckingbpasdion into their work.

  • I'm still looking for a good reason to believe critical thinking and intelligence are taking a dive. It's so very easy to claim the kids aren't all right. But I wish someone would check. An interview with the gpt cheaters? A survey checking that those brilliant essays aren't from people using better prompts? Let's hear from the kids! Everyone knows nobody asked us when we were being turned into ungrammatical zombies by spell check/grammar check/texting/video content/ipads/the calculator.

    Critical thinking is on the downturn, but, interestingly, it's by date, not birthdate. It happens with exposure to social media algorithms and llm's, more than anything else.

    The living death of our humanity is a monumental testament yo neuroplasticity and our ability to keep changing deep into old age.

    Its a really inspiring kind of horror.

  • IMO, kids use ChatGPT because they are aware enough to understand that the degree is what really matters in our society, so putting in the effort to understand the material when they could put in way less effort and still pass is a waste of effort.

    We all understand what the goal of school should be, but that learning doesn't really align with the arbitrary measurements we use to track learning.

    I think as long as you hit some very basic milestones, and don't become a fascist, you're recoverable. Can be a person.

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    We had copy and paste lol, nothing close to chatgpt but it was similar

  • I'm still looking for a good reason to believe critical thinking and intelligence are taking a dive. It's so very easy to claim the kids aren't all right. But I wish someone would check. An interview with the gpt cheaters? A survey checking that those brilliant essays aren't from people using better prompts? Let's hear from the kids! Everyone knows nobody asked us when we were being turned into ungrammatical zombies by spell check/grammar check/texting/video content/ipads/the calculator.

    Relevant article
    https://web.archive.org/web/20250314201213/https://www.ft.com/content/a8016c64-63b7-458b-a371-e0e1c54a13fc

    Admittedly the downward trend began sometime in the 2012s so it predates LLMs.

  • We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent

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    @technocrit While I agree with the main point that "AI/LLMs has/have no agency", I must be the boring, ackchyually person who points out and remembers some nerdy things.tl;dr: indeed, AIs and LLMs aren't intelligent... we aren't so intelligent as we think we are, either, because we hold no "exclusivity" of intelligence among biosphere (corvids, dolphins, etc) and because there's no such thing as non-deterministic "intelligence". We're just biologically compelled to think that we can think and we're the only ones to think, and this is just anthropocentric and naive from us (yeah, me included).If you have the patience to read a long and quite verbose text, it's below. If you don't, well, no problems, just stick to my tl;dr above.-----First and foremost, everything is ruled by physics. Deep down, everything is just energy and matter (the former of which, to quote the famous Einstein equation e = mc, is energy as well), and this inexorably includes living beings.Bodies, flesh, brains, nerves and other biological parts, they're not so different from a computer case, CPUs/NPUs/TPUs, cables and other computer parts: to quote Sagan, it's all "made of star stuff", it's all a bunch of quarks and other elementary particles clumped together and forming subatomic particles forming atoms forming molecules forming everything we know, including our very selves...Everything is compelled to follow the same laws of physics, everything is subjected to the same cosmic principles, everything is subjected to the same fundamental forces, everything is subjected to the same entropy, everything decays and ends (and this comment is just a reminder, a cosmic-wide Memento mori).It's bleak, but this is the cosmic reality: cosmos is simply indifferent to all existence, and we're essentially no different than our fancy "tools", be it the wheel, the hammer, the steam engine, the Voyager twins or the modern dystopian electronic devices crafted to follow pieces of logical instructions, some of which were labelled by developers as "Markov Chains" and "Artificial Neural Networks".Then, there's also the human non-exclusivity among the biosphere: corvids (especially Corvus moneduloides, the New Caleidonian crow) are scientifically known for their intelligence, so are dolphins, chimpanzees and many other eukaryotas. Humans love to think we're exclusive in that regard, but we're not, we're just fooling ourselves!IMHO, every time we try to argue "there's no intelligence beyond humans", it's highly anthropocentric and quite biased/bigoted against the countless other species that currently exist on Earth (and possibly beyond this Pale Blue Dot as well). We humans often forgot how we are species ourselves (taxonomically classified as "Homo sapiens"). We tend to carry on our biological existences as if we were some kind of "deities" or "extraterrestrials" among a "primitive, wild life".Furthermore, I can point out the myriad of philosophical points, such as the philosophical point raised by the mere mention of "senses" ("Because it’s bodiless. It has no senses, ..." "my senses deceive me" is the starting point for Cartesian (René Descartes) doubt. While Descarte's conclusion, "Cogito ergo sum", is highly anthropocentric, it's often ignored or forgotten by those who hold anthropocentric views on intelligence, as people often ground the seemingly "exclusive" nature of human intelligence on the ability to "feel".Many other philosophical musings deserve to be mentioned as well: lack of free will (stemming from the very fact that we were unable to choose our own births), the nature of "evil" (both the Hobbesian line regarding "human evilness" and the Epicurean paradox regarding "metaphysical evilness"), the social compliance (I must point out to documentaries from Derren Brown on this subject), the inevitability of Death, among other deep topics.All deep principles and ideas converging, IMHO, into the same bleak reality, one where we (supposedly "soul-bearing beings") are no different from a "souless" machine, because we're both part of an emergent phenomena (Ordo ab chao, the (apparent) order out of chaos) that has been taking place for Æons (billions of years and beyond, since the dawn of time itself).Yeah, I know how unpopular this worldview can be and how downvoted this comment will probably get. Still I don't care: someone who gazed into the abyss must remember how the abyss always gazes us, even those of us who didn't dare to gaze into the abyss yet.I'm someone compelled by my very neurodivergent nature to remember how we humans are just another fleeting arrangement of interconnected subsystems known as "biological organism", one of which "managed" to throw stuff beyond the atmosphere (spacecrafts) while still unable to understand ourselves. We're biologically programmed, just like the other living beings, to "fear Death", even though our very cells are programmed to terminate on a regular basis (apoptosis) and we're are subjected to the inexorable chronological falling towards "cosmic chaos" (entropy, as defined, "as time passes, the degree of disorder increases irreversibly").
  • The Wikipedia Test

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    You act like they want us to have access to information they don't have full control over. I'm pretty sure that's a really low priority for most of them.
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    Idk if it’s content blocking on my end but I can’t tell you how upset I am that the article had no pictures of the contraption or a video of it in action.
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    Sure: for professionals. However when casually commenting in a forum it is fine because the reader can go check the citations (and perhaps come back and add to the thread).
  • Is there anybody over here who can tell me more about smart meters ?

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    I should say too, that was almost 12:30 last night so you couldn't really see what solar was doing. Here it is at 9:45 this morning: [image: 4f578a85-5ef2-4975-a501-7deafa8c5c09.jpeg]
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    Their previous GPU used an old AMD GPU design if I recall correctly. I wonder if they have in-house stuff now.
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    In highrises with lots of stops and users, it uses some more advanced software to schedule the optimal stops, or distribute the load between multiple lifts. A similar concept exists for HDD controllers, where the read write arm must move to different positions to load data stored on different plates and sectors, and Repositioning the head is a slow and expensive process that cuts down the data transfer rate.
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    Yeah, damn, I always forget about that...just like they want...